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RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - Rammyrascal - 19-04-2010 21:13
(19-04-2010 21:07 )MARCCE Wrote:(19-04-2010 20:27 )Webbiola Wrote: The market is open to anyone with enough money to set up a channel and employ the girls. If they want to pay more to get the girls they want then so be it. I don't share your 'obliteration' view and surely Bluebird can only offer more money if the business model warrants it and without the porn where will the extra revenue come in? Are there hordes of callers out there waiting for Bluebird to revolutionise the babe channels and pay even more than Elite currently charges? I think Bluebird is looking to change things, push the boundaries, perhaps do what Elite does but different and better, get more of our favourites to do porn as that is where the real revenue is and where the big money is for the girls. How long did we have to wait for websites to be up and running for various Elite stars? Where is the Danica site she was plugging last October? Don't think the Elite way is the only way. Jamie did and still does some great stuff and his eye for girls is second to none but there are many instances of things that appear unprofessional or at least smack of questionable judgement (Carmen?). Nobody is perfect but things change and it is how others respond that counts. A major shakeup? Yes. World domination? I think not.
Yes the market is open to anyone with enough money to by a bae channel but Bluebird and way and above anyone who's got involved in it previously.
The girls on a phone every night probably won't make them a huge amount of money. Their websites may just do. And if some of them do decide to make the crossover into porn then even better for them.
The Elite way most certainly isn't the only way though they did shake up what had become a pretty moribund scene at that time. However, Elite like the other babe channels at the moment are bound by financial constraints. It doesn't apply to Bluebird who are already a worldwide business. It's a bit like, say, Everton trying to compete with Man City.
And look at the way Elite operate compared to this mob. Almost the first anyone knew Caty had joined Elite was when she popped up on screen on her first night. This Bluebird Official is officially announcing girls have left seemingly before they've even decided.
Smacks of a company out to dominate the market it seems to me. We shall see but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the existing babe channels are no more come this time next year.
agree with all your points apart from the final one about a lot of babechannels going by this time next year. when elite started everyone was saying the same thing especially about bangbabes but bangbabes are still here. also agree bluebird's behaviour has been very unprofessional
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - MARCCE - 19-04-2010 21:25
(19-04-2010 21:13 )Rammyrascal Wrote: agree with all your points apart from the final one about a lot of babechannels going by this time next year. when elite started everyone was saying the same thing especially about bangbabes but bangbabes are still here. also agree bluebird's behaviour has been very unprofessional
But people were overplaying Elite at that time. They started with one channel. On the night side, I don't think they've ever really had more than about a dozen girls on their roster at the same time. Even now, a year down the line, people are saying they haven't got enough girls to provide enough variety on the nights. What Elite have got, and yes he's got his faults, is someone like Jamie who happens to be very good at what he does.
Doesn't alter the fact that Sophia and Ashley are up to about their 5th appearance in just over a week tonight.
That is small fry compared to 7 channels looking to get in 100 girls. They've already made it clear they'll be looking to take the best Elite have got. Babestation and Bangbabes will be plundered as well. You can't see much hope at all for the channels like Dirty Talk and probably Club Paradiso either.
And say someone like Delta, bless her heart, decides she wants to stay loyal to Elite. Her involvement with Bluebird will probably mean they'd be able to stipulate what they are prepared to let her do on a rival channel as well.
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - Donsman - 19-04-2010 21:29
In the end of the day loyalty to a channel is going to be hard when a bigger fish comes along with money the girls cant refuse
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - wade_wilson - 19-04-2010 21:36
just a thought, but since ashley is on tonight, could just mean she's got notice to work out before she leaves or something? or she just wants to finish out at elite until she starts on bluebird in june? as for the comments on caty's facebook, who knows if caty has all the info, thats if thats the real caty on facebook as there's always fakes, some are even very good.
its always funny reading these threads as people seem to think they know all the details when mostly peeps are grasping at straws... also i think Bluebird have been unprofessional from all the posts i've read since i joined.
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - Rise - 19-04-2010 21:38
Considering that Ashley left Elite at such short notice, the girl they got in to imitate her is doing a particularly fine job tonight.
She's definitely got the bum wiggle right down to a 'T'
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - amdixon_1 - 19-04-2010 21:39
(19-04-2010 18:09 )MARCCE Wrote:(19-04-2010 14:19 )amdixon_1 Wrote: Let Bluebird gloat. It just means we can laugh that little bit harder when they fall flat on their faces.
It's not going to happen. Bluebird have a multi million pound business. Any girls they want to take over there will be offered more than the existing channels can offer. Elite can find more talent and Bluebird will just come along and make them an offer they can't refuse.
Certain people on here are still not getting it. This is not like when Elite started and they signed up a few girls from the other channels. Really not sure why people get on their high horse about that anyway because nobody in their right mind is going to start a babe channel with a load of novices on board. And as Jamie has said on here, the majority of girls that came over from Bangbabes were girls he had taken there in the first place.
Bluebird are bringing in 7 channels. They're aiming at employing 100 girls. Just about anyone worth their salt will be made an offer by Bluebird.
Brace yourselves because the future of babe channels seems to be Bluebird with very little besides.
I'd actually like to see them fail dismally purely because this Bluebird fella seems a right mug but hey, it's not going to happen.
Bluebirds arrogance that they can just turn up and blow the competition away will be their downfall. Profit margins are very tight in this business (just look at the Babestation accounting reports posted on this site), spending lots of money trying to be successful doesn't always return a profit.
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - chrislatimer - 19-04-2010 22:02
this is pathetic on bluebirds part if ashley has not agreed to join their channels yet.
and as caty cole said ashleys a sweet girl who would be out of place on bluebirds channels. i hope she stays with elite
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - MARCCE - 19-04-2010 22:02
(19-04-2010 21:39 )amdixon_1 Wrote: Bluebirds arrogance that they can just turn up and blow the competition away will be their downfall. Profit margins are very tight in this business (just look at the Babestation accounting reports posted on this site), spending lots of money trying to be successful doesn't always return a profit.
Yep and it's the Babestation accounting reports I had in mind. Cellcast are pretty much the biggest operation involved in the babe channels and they struggle to make it profitable.
Bluebird can easily afford to absorb losses on the babe channel operation and recoup that by making more from the extras. Having said that, they're already looking into the idea of making one or more of their channels encrypted with a subscription fee involved so they'll be doing all they can to make it profitable.
Doesn't alter the fact that they're the biggest operators to have ever dipped their toe in the babe channel waters and that involvement is going to change the whole landscape I fear.
And like you, I find their arrogance pretty nauseating as well.
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - mrwotzup - 19-04-2010 22:07
Just re-read BB Official's post where it say's "Ashley has agreed to sign" which without being unduly anal is different to actually signing the contract.
http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=13858&page=41
I feel very sorry for Ashley in all this.If Ashley hasnt signed on the dotted line this thread is a bit previous and now her current Employer knows her possible intentions.
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Edit
Ive no wish to know if Ashley has now signed or any info about Contract details etc. That should remain confidential at all times unless all parties wish to disclose the details.
RE: Ashley Has Left Elite - Rael 74 - 19-04-2010 22:08
(19-04-2010 22:02 )chrislatimer Wrote: and as caty cole said ashleys a sweet girl who would be out of place on bluebirds channels. i hope she stays with elite
If I may ask Chris, where did Caty say that? just wondering!!