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RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - rustee1 - 06-09-2021 13:14
They did exactly what I hoped they wouldn’t with Adam Cole. Brought him in with his mates to do comedy. Then they debuted Brian straight after that completely overshadowed Cole. Made him look like an afterthought and mid card level.
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - winsaw - 06-09-2021 14:17
(06-09-2021 13:14 )rustee1 Wrote: They did exactly what I hoped they wouldn’t with Adam Cole. Brought him in with his mates to do comedy. Then they debuted Brian straight after that completely overshadowed Cole. Made him look like an afterthought and mid card level.
no mate thats not what happened , they reformed the best version of the bullet club and intently elevated Cole to main event level in the best and hottest heel faction in the world,
then they created a new Face faction to face them by putting Bryan with Cage and Jurassic Express thats so many exciting matches set up right there and intently elevated Jungle Boy to main event level, it was a moment that changed the world of wrestling
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - HannahsPet - 06-09-2021 14:36
from the sounds of it from the media scrum afterwards was short notice he only signed yesterday although they had a gentlemen's agreement in place. even he didnt know his contract was up for renewal so soon he thought he was signed until december this year at NXT
actually think its better for him to start with elite and then turn on them later like he did undisputed era setting up things for later
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - winsaw - 06-09-2021 15:17
my thoughts on the PPV
match 1 TNT Championship Match: Eddie Kingston vs. Miro
this was a very good hard hitting match, both worked well together, Miro looked dominant and Eddie was the good underdog , the screwjob finish for Miro win was right as it protects Eddie and sets up another match, 8 out of 10
match 2 Jon Moxley vs. Satoshi Kojima
excellent stiff hard hitting Japanese style match was the best i have seen Kojima look in some time, the whole match was better than i expected, seeing the King Minoru Suzuki come out after the match was amazing the crowed went made for him, hes going to have a great match with Mox as they always have before, Mox won 8 out of 10
match 3 AEW Women's Championship Match: Kris Statlander vs. Dr. Britt Baker DMD
this was a happy surprise it was both girls best match in AEW for the first time Britt did it all by her self with out any help from outside, and that made her look like a true champ for the first time in her clean win, Kris showed she can main event and i think proved she will win the belt next year everything worked 9 out of 10
match 4 Steel Cage Match for the AEW Tag Team Championship: Lucha Bros vs. Young Bucks
one of the best matches i have ever seam this was simply perfect, if this don't win a lot of match of the year votes i will be surprised, this was spot wrestling at its best in front a wild crowed so into the Lucha bros, i liked that it had more story in then her previous matches was nice seeing Penta protecting his young brother, its the shake up the division needed , 10 out of 10
match 5 Casino Battle Royale
i never really like these type match much but this was not to bad Soho, The Bunny, Jay, Rose and Rosa all had good showings the rest really didn't do much, Conti was the most over with the crowed, Soho and Rose had a good fight at the end to decide the winner , it was right for Soho to go over 7 out of 10
match 6 The Final Fight: Chris Jericho vs. MJF
this was not the best wrestling match these 2 have had over the last year but it was the best story they have told, they was they both worked the crowed was a master class, the false finish when MJF pinned Chris who had his leg on the rope was right as it protects MJF as he can say he was screwed again, and it gave Chris the big comeback win, i hope they dont fight again soon though lol 8 out of 10
match 7 CM Punk vs. Darby Allin
Punk still got it, a lovely old school wrestling match it started slow and got faster as it went along lovely pace to the match, both men had the upper hand at points, both men looked stars it was perfect booking, punk had to win but he made sure to put Allin over strong both have benefited from this 9 out of 10
match 8 Paul Wight vs. QT Marshall
this was a poor match it proved Wight cant do it any more bu it served its purpose to put a break between the 2 main event matches 5 out of 10
match 9 AEW World Championship Match: Christian Cage vs. Kenny Omega
the match itself was very good both work so well together it was a better version of the match they had for the impact belt, lots to like, Captain Charisma showed why hes one of the best workers going and again got the best out of Kenny,
after the match Adam Cole made his debut to a thunderous ovation and landed a superkick on Jungle Boy and joining The Elite, then Bryan Danielson made his debut, joining Cage and Jurassic Express and sending the heels running and everyone home happy 10 out of 10
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - Kingsmind - 06-09-2021 15:29
When i look at the business TNA done in the past with getting WWE wrestlers , AEW without doubt has done the better business.
I mean all TNA had was the likes of Kurt Angle,Brother Devon,Bubba Ray Dudley,The Hardy's and Mr Anderson and a part from Kurt Angle the rest was mid carders at best.
Then when at AEW they ain't just there for titles because they couldn't get any in WWE they are main event stars from WWE.
I mean back in the day i thought TNA done good business with WWE wrestler's but when you really think about it they really didn't.
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - Kingsmind - 06-09-2021 15:32
(06-09-2021 13:14 )rustee1 Wrote: They did exactly what I hoped they wouldn’t with Adam Cole. Brought him in with his mates to do comedy. Then they debuted Brian straight after that completely overshadowed Cole. Made him look like an afterthought and mid card level.
Yeah but you think about it Rustee it was obvious Adam Cole was going to join The Elite/Bullet Club , if the band didn't get back together then it would of been a different story.
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - rustee1 - 06-09-2021 15:48
(06-09-2021 14:17 )winsaw Wrote:(06-09-2021 13:14 )rustee1 Wrote: They did exactly what I hoped they wouldn’t with Adam Cole. Brought him in with his mates to do comedy. Then they debuted Brian straight after that completely overshadowed Cole. Made him look like an afterthought and mid card level.
no mate thats not what happened , they reformed the best version of the bullet club and intently elevated Cole to main event level in the best and hottest heel faction in the world,
then they created a new Face faction to face them by putting Bryan with Cage and Jurassic Express thats so many exciting matches set up right there and intently elevated Jungle Boy to main event level, it was a moment that changed the world of wrestling
Cole could’ve debuted anytime there, cut a promo and been main event level. In his big debut he slotted into a group that already has the world champ and then a bigger star debuted 1 minute later and stole all his thunder. That is not elevating him. They had to rush both debuts into one show and completely over book everything.
If there’s one thing aew needs is more factions. Nothing that happened in that segment elevated jungle boy
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - rustee1 - 06-09-2021 15:51
(06-09-2021 15:32 )Kingsmind Wrote:(06-09-2021 13:14 )rustee1 Wrote: They did exactly what I hoped they wouldn’t with Adam Cole. Brought him in with his mates to do comedy. Then they debuted Brian straight after that completely overshadowed Cole. Made him look like an afterthought and mid card level.
Yeah but you think about it Rustee it was obvious Adam Cole was going to join The Elite/Bullet Club , if the band didn't get back together then it would of been a different story.
If they had to bring him back to join his buddies they could’ve done it so much better and actually made him the made focus. Spread out 2 big debuts even if only by a week or 2.
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - Kingsmind - 06-09-2021 16:00
I know in other companies you do get pushed but anyone think Jon Moxley is losing his push?.
RE: All Elite Wrestling discussion Thread - winsaw - 06-09-2021 16:29
(06-09-2021 16:00 )Kingsmind Wrote: I know in other companies you do get pushed but anyone think Jon Moxley is losing his push?.
hes mostly working for NJPW now so not time for a proper feud in AEW hes said to be very happy working with who he wants, he also won the GCW world title last week when he beat Matt Cardona , thats why he had a GCW hoodie on last night at the PPV, so think its just a case of he dont have the time to be in a big AEW angle at the moment,