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RE: US Election & Presidency - terence - 08-11-2020 09:35
this made me lol and it encapsulates perfectly, the whole four year of this shitshow!
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trumps-big-press-conference-at-garden-centre-sows-confusion_uk_5fa71f9bc5b64c88d40190ae
RE: US Election & Presidency - lovebabes56 - 08-11-2020 10:18
how many legal challenges are likely to be launched tomorrow?
RE: US Election & Presidency - terence - 08-11-2020 10:24
(08-11-2020 09:35 )terence Wrote: this made me lol and it encapsulates perfectly, the whole four year of this shitshow!
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trumps-big-press-conference-at-garden-centre-sows-confusion_uk_5fa71f9bc5b64c88d40190ae
https://twitter.com/nanglish/status/1325242917519233024?s=20
RE: US Election & Presidency - The Silent Majority - 08-11-2020 10:30
(08-11-2020 02:28 )Goodfella3041 Wrote: I don't remember the exact wording, but Nixon was essentially "pre-pardoned" for any crime that he might be convicted for in connection with Watergate. So there must be a way to do it.
A pre-pardon is pretty much an admission of guilt.
Not that will matter, though.
RE: US Election & Presidency - SecretAgent - 08-11-2020 10:33
At his weird press conference Giuliani said the media don’t decide who wins the election the courts do. That rather gives their game away because they obviously don’t accept that it is the people with their votes who decide!. I liked Biden’s speech last night. Definitely unifying but looking at the Trump supporters in The Proud Boys etc they are calling for them to mobilise so the troubles may not be over yet.
A Fox News report last night said that they understood Trump would agree to a handover “subject to certain conditions which” sounds rather ominous.
RE: US Election & Presidency - tony confederate - 08-11-2020 11:39
(08-11-2020 02:28 )Goodfella3041 Wrote: I don't remember the exact wording, but Nixon was essentially "pre-pardoned" for any crime that he might be convicted for in connection with Watergate.
I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, have granted a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.
RE: US Election & Presidency - lovebabes56 - 08-11-2020 11:46
At which point in time would Trump lose his rights to immunity from prosecution if no deal is struck?
RE: US Election & Presidency - lovebabes56 - 08-11-2020 11:50
(08-11-2020 10:33 )SecretAgent Wrote: At his weird press conference Giuliani said the media don’t decide who wins the election the courts do. That rather gives their game away because they obviously don’t accept that it is the people with their votes who decide!. I liked Biden’s speech last night. Definitely unifying but looking at the Trump supporters in The Proud Boys etc they are calling for them to mobilise so the troubles may not be over yet.
A Fox News report last night said that they understood Trump would agree to a handover “subject to certain conditions which” sounds rather ominous.
Biden's speech was one that showed that he wants to help the American public move on from Trump's Prssidency and move forward as a nation. I think it struck thr right tone, but once the hard work starts in office I thionk he know he has an uphill battle getting legislation through the Senate.
RE: US Election & Presidency - Goodfella3041 - 08-11-2020 12:27
It’s funny ... the champagne hasn’t even gone flat yet and the left is already busy eating itself from the inside. Some people are just so disheartened that it wasn’t a landslide and a full-throated repudiation of Trump.
My slightly more optimistic take:
- You were never going to win Texas and Florida is always a wildcard. Get over it. You didn’t lose to “Trumpism”; you lost to your own expectations. You’ve taken back the rust belt and with Georgia and Arizona you have a foothold in the sun belt. Two years ago, you’d have taken that map in a heartbeat.
- The electorate — as an ‘entity’ — is smarter than we give it credit for. It was able to distinguish between Trump as a cultural phenomenon and conservatism as a perfectly legitimate political position. People’s willingness to split their vote between a Biden presidency and a Republican Senate shows a pretty robust repudiation of the former, even if old-school conservatism is alive and well.
- There is plenty of governing that a divided government can still do. The pandemic is — or at least should be and should have been from the start — a bipartisan issue. So is criminal justice reform and race relations. Given all that’s going on, those should be Biden’s immediate priorities anyway. So get busy.
Drink some more champagne and stop trying to snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory.
RE: US Election & Presidency - HannahsPet - 08-11-2020 13:59
https://twitter.com/MartynMcL/status/1325433247032020993
Interesting flight path this morning by a US Air Force U-28A Draco ISR (Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance) aircraft. Heading southwest from Glasgow Prestwick Airport and circling the perimeter of Trump Turnberry.
Is tangerine man escaping