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RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 12-06-2011 23:48
Remind me, what other outlets do Celcast have for porn?
Is it possible they bought up one licence that another broadcaster was disposing of as an experiment and decided it was not worth converting their other channels? Anyone know what the licence was used for before or if it was brand new?
RE: Ofcom Discussion - Digital Dave - 13-06-2011 01:05
(12-06-2011 23:27 )SYBORG666 Wrote: I think the situation with Cellcast, is purely down to the fact that they know if they showed what they could on their fta channels then nobody would purchase their other products. Unfortunatley for us, until one of the other channels do the same, Cellcast will not see the point in taking things further on their fta channels due to them being happy with things how they are.
If another channel does decide to get a dutch license and started to show stronger content on their fta channels, then Cellcast would then start to show stronger content because then they'd have a real competitor on content.
I'm just hoping producers/owners of the other channels read this thread and take the hint.
I would love that to happen! Perhaps Revelation TV, with their Spanish licence, could branch out. They could call it 'Reveal-ation.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - Digital Dave - 13-06-2011 01:30
(12-06-2011 23:48 )eccles Wrote: Remind me, what other outlets do Celcast have for porn?
Is it possible they bought up one licence that another broadcaster was disposing of as an experiment and decided it was not worth converting their other channels? Anyone know what the licence was used for before or if it was brand new?
Eccles, your post reminded me of an obvious point which I'd totally forgotten - most of Cellcast's channels are operated under licences granted by Ofcom!
Sky:
906: Babestation = Dutch licence
909: Get Lucky = Ofcom
910: Lucky Star = Ofcom
951: Blue Kiss (used to come from Cellcast, now leased to Bluebird) = Ofcom
They also used to have Babecast (907) but that was licenced under Friendly TV = Ofcom.
Freeview:
Babestation = Dutch licence
Smile TV = Ofcom
The licence info is all on the Ofcom site.
So there we are - only two Cellcast channels are in fact Dutch, and they are the original Babestation ones. The fact that they've never implemented more Dutch licences confirms the fact that it's more bother than it's worth, especially when they had no intention of showing harder stuff on FTA.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - SYBORG666 - 13-06-2011 01:35
I like your thinking Dave
I think if Elite for example got a dutch license or something similar, then I think it would be a safe bet that things would get slightly ruder on the Babechannels but like has been mentioned in an earlier post, it's down to finding that balance between generating viewers and callers. I personally think that if the babechannels were able to flash pussy on the shows, they would generate more callers. I think the only reason it didn't work on channels like Babestar and Sexstation (before it became a webshow) was because they were more full-on and i'm sure they'd get more callers (if pussy flashing was allowed) by saying if they got x amount of calls by such and such time, then the on-screen girl will flash.
But that won't happen while the babechannels have to adhere to BCAP/Ofcom rules.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - mr mystery - 13-06-2011 12:55
(13-06-2011 01:30 )Digital Dave Wrote:(12-06-2011 23:48 )eccles Wrote: Remind me, what other outlets do Celcast have for porn?
Is it possible they bought up one licence that another broadcaster was disposing of as an experiment and decided it was not worth converting their other channels? Anyone know what the licence was used for before or if it was brand new?
Eccles, your post reminded me of an obvious point which I'd totally forgotten - most of Cellcast's channels are operated under licences granted by Ofcom!
Sky:
906: Babestation = Dutch licence
909: Get Lucky = Ofcom
910: Lucky Star = Ofcom
951: Blue Kiss (used to come from Cellcast, now leased to Bluebird) = Ofcom
They also used to have Babecast (907) but that was licenced under Friendly TV = Ofcom.
Freeview:
Babestation = Dutch licence
Smile TV = Ofcom
The licence info is all on the Ofcom site.
So there we are - only two Cellcast channels are in fact Dutch, and they are the original Babestation ones. The fact that they've never implemented more Dutch licences confirms the fact that it's more bother than it's worth, especially when they had no intention of showing harder stuff on FTA.
If only Sky channel 906 has a Dutch licence why do they show the Dutch 16 certificate and symbols when the programs start at 9pm on 909 and 910 ?
Also if freeview channel 96 "Babestation" is the only channel on freeview with a Dutch licence why do all the others start with the Dutch 16 cert symbols ?
If the "Smile TV" channels have a Ofcom licence and not Dutch then how come freeview Ch 95 "Smile TV 3" stars at 10pm , a full 2 hours before Ofcom allow Adult Teleshopping channels to broadcast on freeview ?.
Ofcom also mentioned them selves last year when they brought out the new rules that the Cellcast channels would not be affected by the changes because they had a Dutch licence , i think at that time BS1 , BS2 , and BSXtra were transmitted on freeview , they said only Partyland would be affected on freevieW because it had a Ofcom licence at that time and was owned and licenced to channel 5 , that licence was later transferred to "Square 1 Management Limited"
I have sent "babestation" a PM asking them to clarify which of their channels do actually have a Dutch or Ofcom licence , and asked them to either PM me with the info or post on this thread . so i am hoping for a reply .
RE: Ofcom Discussion - mrmann - 13-06-2011 13:05
I've noticed that Babestation has a W on the profile of the channels, yet no other channels have this.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - Digital Dave - 13-06-2011 13:40
(13-06-2011 12:55 )mr mystery Wrote: I have sent "babestation" a PM asking them to clarify which of their channels do actually have a Dutch or Ofcom licence , and asked them to either PM me with the info or post on this thread . so i am hoping for a reply .
Good idea!
RE: Ofcom Discussion - TheWatcher - 13-06-2011 15:43
(13-06-2011 13:05 )mrmann Wrote: I've noticed that Babestation has a W on the profile of the channels, yet no other channels have this.
The W stands for Wankers
RE: Ofcom Discussion - StanTheMan - 13-06-2011 16:12
(12-06-2011 11:39 )mr mystery Wrote: [snip] ... you have only got to look at all the fines dished out to the likes of Playboy and TVX for their encrypted channels when they failed to encrypt them properly to realise how much this Dutch licence protected Cellcast when they did the same when they showed BSXtreme unencrypted... [snip]
Sorry to drift off topic, but was this unencrypted BSXtreme an 'accident' or intentional? I missed it, typically.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - TheWatcher - 13-06-2011 16:41
(13-06-2011 16:12 )StanTheMan Wrote:(12-06-2011 11:39 )mr mystery Wrote: [snip] ... you have only got to look at all the fines dished out to the likes of Playboy and TVX for their encrypted channels when they failed to encrypt them properly to realise how much this Dutch licence protected Cellcast when they did the same when they showed BSXtreme unencrypted... [snip]
Sorry to drift off topic, but was this unencrypted BSXtreme an 'accident' or intentional? I missed it, typically.
I believe it was an accident. It was reported on the forum at the time.
Most people missed it, myself included.