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RE: Club or Country? - Master Yoda - 14-02-2011 14:28
You probably didnt know this groundnpound but the Borussia Dortmund fans also sing You'll Never Walk Alone before and during every game.
They do a pretty decent job of it too if i'm honest about it
These are before a couple of home games.........RE: Club or Country? - lindor - 14-02-2011 14:47
I'm pretty certain that both Sunderland and Aston Villa fans sing You'll Never Walk Alone, Groundnpound.
It could possibly be as a stick to beat us with as everyone knows how much we detest that anthem
However, if yourself or no-one else has any recollection of those fans singing it (and Newcastle United fans as well, if I'm not mistaken
) then it could be just a thing to wind us up.Perhaps the likes of AstonV1 or some of the Geordies and Mackems could come onto here to confirm or deny it as the case may be. Maybe they just don't sing it when they play Liverpool for obvious reasons as the anthem is mostly associated with Liverpool, although Celtic claim to have sung it first (something I would doubt as the song was popularised by Gerry And The Pacemakers).
I'd guess that AC Milan probably adopted the anthem after that clip that you posted days after Hillsborough, but don't know when Borussia Dortmund started singing it, although I'd guess it was after 1997, as they were probably the best-received and most popular fans I've ever encountered at Old Trafford when they knocked us out in the semi-final of the Champions League, and they certainly weren't singing it then
RE: Club or Country? - Master Yoda - 14-02-2011 14:56
Apparantly the Dortmund fans began singing it after the Uefa Cup Final in 2001 which was held in Dortmund in their home ground. The story goes that the many thousands of Liverpool fans who descended to the city for the match got on really well with the locals and the Dortmund fans were amazed with the renditions of Y.N.W.A throughout the day and in particular the wall of red which sang it in their stadium on the night. They adopted a version of it for themselves since then.......
And as for the Celtic fans laying claim to singing it first....lets put it to bed..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You'll_Never_Walk_Alone
RE: Club or Country? - groundnpound - 14-02-2011 15:55
I've never heard of it lindor.Apart from the time at old trafford from the sunderland fans.
Been goin home and away for a while now and i've never heard Villa or Sunderland sing it?If they did sing the song you would've thought they'd have sang it with us?
I knew Dortmund sang YNWA Yoda.Some good vids there mate.
The Westfalen is one of the best grounds you'll ever watch a game in.The atmosphere is immense!Can remember missing the Geography exam to go to the final in 01 lol First European Final for me.
Well worth it.Great experience.
RE: Club or Country? - Gaz "AV1" Aston - 14-02-2011 18:40
(14-02-2011 15:55 )groundnpound Wrote: I've never heard of it lindor.Apart from the time at old trafford from the sunderland fans.
Been goin home and away for a while now and i've never heard Villa or Sunderland sing it?If they did sing the song you would've thought they'd have sang it with us?
Lindor has PM'd me to ask me to give my side on the YNWA issue...
Villa fans dont sing YNWA as standard but we have sang it at Old Trafford to rile United fans before (certainly i was singing it last season when we won 0-1
) and of course we have another version of the song for when we travel to Liverpool which im sure most people know....
but to clarify..We dont sing it as standard..the only other fans i have heard first hand sing it
was in a pre-season friendly against Celtic a few years back.
hope that helps Lindor
RE: Club or Country? - lindor - 14-02-2011 19:13
Thanks for that Astonv1! So it seems I was partly right I suppose!
I also PMd Trickster to get a Newcastle perspective on it. I hope he doesn't mind me repeating what he told me, which was basically that yes, Newcastle United fans do sing You'll Never Walk Alone, but not very often. He says they did sing it when they beat Liverpool earlier this season.
So it looks like Groundnpound and I were both partly right as the truth is somewhere in the middle - I'd call that a draw then, although we still haven't heard the Sunderland angle yet (I'm sure there's someone on the forum with a Sunderland badge avatar, so when I come across him I'll PM him to find out
).
RE: Club or Country? - The Narcissist - 15-02-2011 03:01
Wow i really didnt know all these other clubs sing renditions of YNWA besides Liverpool and Celtic. I dont think any of the other clubs with respect, do it as must justice as the Liverpool fans do. I always love watching National anthem and songs being sung before matches, really hypes the match up and you get that electric buzz before a game starts.
Oh and come on Arsenal tomorrow against Barcelona
RE: Club or Country? - bigguy01 - 15-02-2011 19:42
celtic do.
RE: Club or Country? - rickhardo - 01-03-2011 10:09
(14-02-2011 04:36 )The Narcissist Wrote: German national anthem translation
Germany, Germany above all,
Above all in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world!
Is anyone picking up a common theme here with these national anthems besides the poetry of the words!!!!! about how they talk about the GLORY OF THEIR COUNTRY AND LAND!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT ABOUT GOD SAVING A MONARCH WHO HAS NO POWER IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!! Seriously our anthem sucks, it should be about the pride of our country and everything that makes up the beauty of our country, not about one person
Fair point but as a pedant I feel I have to say that this, the first verse of the original song, is no longer used as the official German anthem, due presumably to it's Nazi past. They now use the third verse which goes -
Unity and justice and freedom
For the German Fatherland!
For these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of fortune.
Flourish in this fortune's blessing
Flourish, German Fatherland!
I've long been an advocate of I Vow To Thee My Country being our anthem but I don't see it happening soon.
RE: Club or Country? - 2Bud - 01-03-2011 10:58
I am a big Liverpool fan but they have had plenty of success and will have plenty more of it soon enough.
I'm going with my Country, because:
I would love to see Ireland win the world cup