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RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - lovebabes56 - 26-04-2020 21:56
nope
Just want to see how you have rated the ministers for delivering the briefings
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - Chrisst - 26-04-2020 22:45
(26-04-2020 21:56 )lovebabes56 Wrote: nope
Just want to see how you have rated the ministers for delivering the briefings
The Brazilian Ambassador does the best briefings
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - southsidestu - 27-04-2020 17:45
Matt Hancock has announced that the families of NHS workers who have died fighting the coronavirus will receive £60,000 compensation. Think we can all agree that this is hush money to stop them banding together and demanding an inquiry
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - SecretAgent - 27-04-2020 17:50
(27-04-2020 17:45 )southsidestu Wrote: Matt Hancock has announced that the families of NHS workers who have died fighting the coronavirus will receive £60,000 compensation. Think we can all agree that this is hush money to stop them banding together and demanding an inquiry
No we can’t
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - lovebabes56 - 27-04-2020 18:02
I would say that the £60,000 payment should have been done a lot sooner, and hope that payments are paid as quickly as possible to soften the blow of their loss, but feel that the families probably will still demand an inquiry into how their loved ones died. Those losses are probably the starkest reminder of what the battle against this virus in hospital is really like.
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - lovebabes56 - 28-04-2020 04:00
The WHO berates world for 'not listening' : -
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/who-chief-berates-the-world-for-not-listening-carefully-to-the-agencys-warnings-about-coronavirus-on-january-30-when-there-were-only-82-covid-19-cases-outside-china/ar-BB13hfQi?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=spartanntp
I would agree that there are some questions about China's role in all this that we have never have had fully explained, but at the same time would the world have been better prepared if we HAD listened to the WHO then when only 82 cases of the virus were in existence? The time line contained within does make interesting reading I would say, but what I will say is I remember the news reports the BBC did from HK and I think even then you got a sense that something was going on. I am sure that in those reports thry didn't mention the wet markets then.
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - The Silent Majority - 28-04-2020 06:21
(27-04-2020 17:45 )southsidestu Wrote: Think we can all agree that this is hush money to stop them banding together and demanding an inquiry
Robert Peston asked, at the briefing, if this payment was dependant on the families waiving any of their rights and Hancock answered point blank "No"
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - The Silent Majority - 28-04-2020 06:35
(28-04-2020 04:00 )lovebabes56 Wrote: what I will say is I remember the news reports the BBC did from HK and I think even then you got a sense that something was going on. I am sure that in those reports thry didn't mention the wet markets then.
The early media reports were widely condemned as scaremongering, including by many people on here.
The WHO is being accused of not being hard enough on China, mostly by leaders who fucked up and are trying to cover their own arse. The truth is, the WHO has very little actual power and it would be very easy to get shut out by China completely if they became too heavy handed. They have to strike a balance that allows them to stay engaged with China, because the alternative would be worse.
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - Chrisst - 28-04-2020 10:50
Would not that £60000 effect or interfere with or diminish any payout dependants would receive through life insurance or as a result of any investigation concening the Health and Safety at Work Act?
Would not one receive in one hand and pay from the other?
RE: Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it? - southsidestu - 28-04-2020 13:16
Well I seem to be in the minority here & perhaps I am being overly cynical.
All I would say is that the Government's handling of the crisis has been pathetic on almost every level, we are set to be one of the worst hit countries in Europe & already have one of the highest death rates. Yet despite this Boris Johnson enjoys record approval ratings (even before he was diagnosed) & The Conservatives overall are sky high in the polls. Nothing seems to be sticking to them but I think a campaign for an inquiry from the families of deceased NHS staff & the inevitable results would hurt them. I wouldn't put something like this past Johnson or Cummings.
Also I am not pulling this out of thin air, the party has recent form in regards to these kinds of issues. Sajid Javid told MPs, just like Hancock told Peston, that victims of the Windrush scandal would not need to sign NDAs when receiving money from the government's compensation scheme. However days earlier he wrote to the Home Affairs Select Committee to say that payments had been made through alternate routes & that an NDA might have been used. Only for it to turn out that others also had NDAs imposed on them & that NDAs were being offered in exchange for speeding up the compensation process.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/05/sajid-javid-accused-of-buying-silence-of-windrush-citizens
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/windrush-scandal-latest-sajid-javid-gagging-victims-compensation-hostile-environment-a8476441.html