m100 Wrote:Don't hold your breath waiting for bluebird to release anything - if their record so far is anything to go by - paige will be drawing her old age pension by the time it's released.

Paige has done plenty of hardcore over here and it's easy to get hold of.

If you want to investigate bluebird and it's myriad of problems go to bgafd.co.uk and search the forums - you'll be there for weeks.

starbuck Wrote:don't get the Bluebird rap about not releasin' stuff?
Went to BGAFD and they have lots of movies listed on there - including with lovely Paige!
They got scenes with her on their website = bluebirdfilms.com - she's there on there guest girls menu

And I've seen about 20 DVDs of their on Gamelink.com

Quote:Some members of the Forum are willing BB's reports of its membership etc to be untrue.
Some are unsure.
Some don't care and simply want to get on with enjoying the Content and are prepared to overlook the fairly obvious technical defects in the site until the next version comes along.

The BB posts have sunk to sickening depths of abuse and personal attacks. Unless this is stopped, that ordure will start flying the other way, and what should be a harmless fun Forum will turn into a cesspit of allegations.

So the BB Invitation to those who have been prepared to accuse BB of lying about their launch/member figures goes like this:
(1) Nominate a Representative - perhaps One Eyed Jack - or whoever through the Forum.

(2) The Representative will pledge to donate all his annual site revenue (or his annual income if not in our business) to a Fund for health testing of adult performers (irrespective of which companies they work for). Each person nominating the Representative who has previously endorsed the 'BB are lying' allegation pledges to contribute £1,000 to the Fund.

(3) The Representative comes to BB Studios and can personally inspect (a) the member data lists (b) the sales returns © the actual emails from members/fans. Obviously 30-odd thousand emails will take a bit of going through, but no doubt after a Day or so, the Representative will have seen enough.

(4) Having viewed this real evidenced data, the Representative will
(i) write out his cheque
(ii) mail the Forum with a complete apology and retraction. All his nominees will likewise then mail their cheques to the Fund and write emails of apology and retraction.

Since those alleging 'lies' are wrong, BB's counter-wager is acadmic, but anyway, it is to match the same contribution - and those alleging the lying get to be satisfied.

Throughout the pre-launch history of BB we have simply reported FACTS in answer to queries: what are the contract girls paid, who are they, what amount of content is being shot etc.

We continue to report FACTS.

That the FACTS do not fit into the prejudices or opinion frameworks of others is their problem not ours, but it becomes everyone's problem when people use this Forum as a vehicle to flame Producers who are simply going about their business.
BB has never itself made any claims about its product. All it has ever done is to state what production resources it is using (FACTS) and who is featuring in or directing its movies (FACTS).

It is certain Forum members who have invented characterisations and narratives and then fed off them.

When the FACTS reappear, the authors of these fictions respond with their usual cynical, petulant and irridentionist opinions - in preference to the facts, or anyone else's opinions.

So the gauntlet is thrown down and it is time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP. So - who's gonna put their money, reputation and credibility where their mouth is ?

starbuck Wrote:On that Michelle Thorne thing you said, I went & looked that up as well and the thread ses "As for the Michelle Thorne DP, I don't believe that hiwatt promised that, rather "he would ask if she wanted to do it". http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=2&i=149445&t=149380