(23-06-2010 20:57 )blackjaques Wrote: (23-06-2010 14:02 )Hexit Wrote: as long as no 1 calls them on it they will get away with it.
the sad fact is company's like cellcast wont call them on it because they can get away with ripping off there customers as there current foray into the soft porn market proves. infact cellcast could be hauled over the coals in the next few months for there advertising of B.S.Xtame by the A.S.A they advertise evry night saying switch to blah blah for xxx hardcore action.
XXX is not a permissible rating and to call something XXX is in breach of BBFC codes and guidlines.
saying something is hardcore is in breach of advertising rules for describing a product. you have to advertise the final product not the ingredients you used to make it. the programs may well be hardcore when they shoot them but they get censored and cut thus the final product is soft porn at best, and at worst not even that.
as long as company's like cellcast can get away with such fragrant violations and indeed covet ofcoms rules, things will not change.
They(Ofcon) really do not want R18 on UK television at all & will go to any length to distort by semantics, upholding dubious complaints of breaches in their code to ensure that fully explicit sex does not appear on their cosy view of what television should be.
What certificate would the current output from PBTV & TVX get from the BBFC?
Personally, I don't think it is 18 Cert.
Hexit, the authorities have always taken the line that it's not their job to enforce immorality. You can't sue a drug dealer for taking your money then not delivering. You can't sue a tart for taking your money and keeping her knickers on. Well, you can sue, but would be laughed out of court.
You can't sue an advertiser for advertising something illegal. Though I'll concede you might be able to complain the ASA that advertising something they cannot legally deliver is miseadling and the ad should be pulled. But the broadcaster would probably claim legitimate exageration and that no-one seriously believed it (yeah), like those ads for "probably the best larger". And they will dispute the meaning of XXX.
Quote:What certificate would the current output from PBTV & TVX get from the BBFC?Personally, I don't think it is 18 Cert.
Really? The few bits I have seen go beyond cert 15 with short glimpses of open pussy, rubbing, and ejactulata landing on wobbly bits. The shows don't have to be 100% cert 18 to quality. If any part of a program is cert 18, the whole show gets a cert 18 rating, as Lord Harlech might have said long ago when people watched nudists in things called cinemas.
PS. What's a fragrant violation?