General Election 2019

(06-12-2019 21:54 )hornball Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 11:33 )HannahsPet Wrote:  So boris officially has said he is not doing neil interview Gutless coward

In a sense - and strictly limited to this interview/interrogation business - I applaud Johnson. Of course those that have subjected themselves to tne Neil ego trip, will criticise BJ and label him gutless!

I take the view - particular after A Neil's vlog rant- which by the way - stepped well beyond the BBC supposed objectivity in my view - that BJ was well within his rights, and that one less of these limited USA driven vox pop appearances, will do us the world of good! If you are voting on how these politicians come across on TV, rather than their stated policies/positions - should your (generic term) vote be counted?? It is a serious business electing representatives, and deserves more than an X Factor for MP's!

A. Neil is wrong in claiming that he is doing such face - to - face showdowns for the license fee payer per se, as millions of us disagree with the entire process! One only has to look at the numbers watching - a number that the TV companies are very quick to highlight (if it isn't about ratings rather than principles) Hardly the entire UK (or anything approaching it - 10% at most I believe) on the edge of their sofas with their eyes out on stalks looking in, now is it??

Wasn't there an iceberg or something placed at the podium of a missing participant of one of these staged debates?? Now THAT is what is wrong, and rather pathetic/childish/petulant too! It shows a media that thinks it is more important than it is, and one that sees itself as an influential element in the election itself! Not least in dictating who can participate and who will be excluded!! One nation of the UK was completely excluded in this way (as per usual)!

Part of me hopes you're Michael Gove

Well, that was a complete waste of an hours airtime.

Same old, same old, from both of them...

(06-12-2019 21:54 )hornball Wrote:  Wasn't there an iceberg or something placed at the podium of a missing participant of one of these staged debates?? Now THAT is what is wrong, and rather pathetic/childish/petulant too! It shows a media that thinks it is more important than it is, and one that sees itself as an influential element in the election itself! Not least in dictating who can participate and who will be excluded!! One nation of the UK was completely excluded in this way (as per usual)!

it was channel 4 and it wasn't even an election debate, it was a leaders debate about climate change. farage and johnson refused to turn up (because they are both smarter than tens of thousands of scientists and don't believe in climate change) so channel 4 put ice sculptures on their empty podiums. that's it, that is all they did, nothing else. it was a slight dig at two no-shows, nothing more, and nothing political about it. then johnson/the tories had a strop and threatened to review channel 4's public service licence if they win and boris johnson's communications director complained to ofcom about it and ofcom have decided to not investigate because tories are dickheads, or some other reason.

^Boris's dad offered to go on the show instead.

(06-12-2019 23:13 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  Well, that was a complete waste of an hours airtime.

Same old, same old, from both of them...

This.

If there was ever an election that screamed we need a new way this is it. These self serving non-real worlders have learnt absolutely nothing from the one straight single definitive message the referendum held (and I say that as a solid remainer) - we need change.

The election process needs a fundamental overhaul after this election one way or another and maybe scrapping the Parliament Fixed Term Act would be a start. I would def scrap their ego inflating salaries and pensions replace it with basic universal credit just so they see how real people have to struggle on their basic wages and benefit mess ups.

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Three days of canvassing left before Dec 12th Seeing Boris in a call centre reminds of the documentary series "The Call Centre" - wonder where they are now?

(06-12-2019 23:36 )garnye Wrote:  

(06-12-2019 21:54 )hornball Wrote:  Wasn't there an iceberg or something placed at the podium of a missing participant of one of these staged debates?? Now THAT is what is wrong, and rather pathetic/childish/petulant too! It shows a media that thinks it is more important than it is, and one that sees itself as an influential element in the election itself! Not least in dictating who can participate and who will be excluded!! One nation of the UK was completely excluded in this way (as per usual)!

it was channel 4 and it wasn't even an election debate, it was a leaders debate about climate change. farage and johnson refused to turn up (because they are both smarter than tens of thousands of scientists and don't believe in climate change) so channel 4 put ice sculptures on their empty podiums. that's it, that is all they did, nothing else. it was a slight dig at two no-shows, nothing more, and nothing political about it. then johnson/the tories had a strop and threatened to review channel 4's public service licence if they win and boris johnson's communications director complained to ofcom about it and ofcom have decided to not investigate because tories are dickheads, or some other reason.

MP's throw their toys out of their prams more regularly than overpaid EPL stars.

(08-12-2019 19:55 )babelover48 Wrote:  The election process needs a fundamental overhaul after this election one way or another and maybe scrapping the Parliament Fixed Term Act would be a start. I would def scrap their ego inflating salaries and pensions replace it with basic universal credit just so they see how real people have to struggle on their basic wages and benefit mess ups.

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Three days of canvassing left before Dec 12th Seeing Boris in a call centre reminds of the documentary series "The Call Centre" - wonder where they are now?

Definitely need to bring in ranked voting/proportional representation, it's far more reflective of the voting population in my view and would make voters have to take a deeper look at multiple candidate, which can only be beneficial.

Say what you like about FPTP least with it we havent had a Tory UKIP coaliation destroying the country thats what we would have had by now

^That's true but look what the last Tory/Lib Dem Coalition threw up