Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(06-07-2016 16:04 )Charlemagne Wrote:  ^ If the only terms we are offered are the same as being in the EU then what's the point of leaving. And if they make concessions then why didn't they make them to Cameron in the first place.

It's all guesses at the moment Charlemagne. Who says it will be the same as remaining in? I'd trust May to get a better deal than Gove or Leadsom though

(06-07-2016 16:04 )Charlemagne Wrote:  ^ If the only terms we are offered are the same as being in the EU then what's the point of leaving. And if they make concessions then why didn't they make them to Cameron in the first place.

That would be unacceptable, the UK would have to leave the single market.

Equally though, it would still be self governing, with greater control of imigration.

(06-07-2016 16:17 )SecretAgent Wrote:  It's all guesses at the moment Charlemagne. Who says it will be the same as remaining in? I'd trust May to get a better deal than Gove or Leadsom though

One of the good thing about May, is apparently she was remain (but will carry through Brexit), so the EU may be more sympathetic to her than Goves and she more to the EU.

Pretty much a good balanced really.

A bit out of date, but...

(06-07-2016 12:47 )george lusk Wrote:  I can see this entire Brexit thing becoming a fiasco in which neither Remain nor Leave voters end up being happy.

If the eventual Leave deal looks like something of a compromise, won't the Leave voters say this isn't what we voted for?

I agree, I can see the end result being an arrangement that nobody in the country thinks is a good idea.

With it being such a small Island the more imigration has to be controled

What happens if the government continue to put off invoking article 50 on the grounds that they want to have negotiations first, but the EU continue to insist that negotiations can only take place after the UK have formally invoked article 50? How does that stalemate get resolved?

Apparently John MacDonald is claiming Labour have won every election/vote under Corbyn, I guess him failing to get Labour supporters out to vote in EU Referendum or indeed Scottish Parliament elections doesn't count

(07-07-2016 19:28 )mikedafc Wrote:  Apparently John MacDonald is claiming Labour have won every election/vote under Corbyn, I guess him failing to get Labour supporters out to vote in EU Referendum

I think you'll find the statistic is 7 out of 10 Labour voters supported Remain. I suspect Dave the Rave Cameron cannot claim such high figures amongst HIS party

i bet most conservative seemed to be a lot of new voters who hadnt voted before that prob pushed leave to victory