Star Trek Discovery

(16-01-2020 21:02 )skully Wrote:  Jason Isaacs plays Gabriel Lorca, he's in command of the USS Discovery. A great actor, playing a good character.
I think they went that way with her name due to it being set in the future, and names are likely to become even more unisex, there are women already called Michael though, there's a well known actress called Michael Michele.

Enterprise was great, this steps it up in regards to what they can do and where they can go.

Thanks Rammy
Yes and another from Little House on the Prairie-Michael Learned!
Ah yes Enterprise that's what it was called. Well this does look good but I will judge it at the end of Season 1.
Cheers Skulls

(16-01-2020 21:10 )Stemmw Wrote:  The male names for female characters isn't anything to do with the future setting. Bryan Fuller the creator of Star Trek Discovery did the same thing with his other female lead characters, it's his gimmick. "George" from "Dead like me" and "Chuck" from "Pushing Daisies" are just 2 examples, I believe there are more.

I have no idea to what you refer to but thanks anyway.

(16-01-2020 21:02 )skully Wrote:  Jason Isaacs plays Gabriel Lorca, he's in command of the USS Discovery. A great actor, playing a good character.
I think they went that way with her name due to it being set in the future, and names are likely to become even more unisex, there are women already called Michael though, there's a well known actress called Michael Michele.

Enterprise was great, this steps it up in regards to what they can do and where they can go.

Jason Isaacs is a great guy too. Did two of his panels he was involved in (Man In The Mirror & Discovery Yr1) when I went to Destination Star Trek in October 2018. Told lots of great stories on various subjects & often had the audience in stitches

Michelle Yeoh isn't in the rest of the season she was only a special guest star and 'dispatched' in episode2 and it looks like Jason Isaacs comes into it in episode 3. Okay just checked IMDb and it appears that Yeoh is in 17 episodes-presumably this will be explained at SOME point.

Yes all will be revealed how Michelle Yeoh returns to discovery later in s1

Even though Stemmw has pointed out that the giving of a traditionally male name to a female character wasn't necessarily about names being more unisex in the future it got me thinking how Star Trek has been well ahead of the majority of the curve on this issue.

If you watch the first few episodes of TNG you will see that several of the male extra's appear in a slightly longer version of the dresses the female officer's wear. This was a deliberate attempt by producers to say in the future that clothing will be more unisex. The idea didn't go much further than the first few episodes and never featured any of the main characters however we did see main characters in dress uniform for functions that was like a dress but with trousers

In the episode where Data builds his own offspring he makes the decision to allow his child to choose its own gender, there is the episode where Crusher falls in love with a joined Trill which changes gender at the end and she is unable to love the same person in a female host and she talks about how maybe one day the human race will become more interchangeable with gender. This was explored in greater detail in DS9 with the Dax character.

And the episode where Riker falls in love with someone who is non-binary and is persecuted by their people for being so.

These are just some instances off the top of my head there were undoubtedly more, what's interesting is that if any of these storylines were done today in Discovery or Doctor Who they would be branded as too PC, woke, new age and TNG was doing them 30 yrs ago back when millennials were still being born

^ Excellent knowledge of TNG .

People will just find something to whinge about in any time period. Didn't William Shatner and Nichelle Nichols have to fight their producers to keep an inter-racial kiss in an episode ? Imagine that now, producers afraid to show 2 people of different races kissing. It's mental to think about for someone of my generation (born late 80's).

There will always be push back against stuff like that be it about gender bending, gay/lesbian/trans storylines, racial or religious minority storylines etc. Someone will always find an irrational reason to bitch and moan.

They fight a losing battle though, life moves on and their perceived "problem" with these storyline fades into everyday life and the majority aren't bothered, as they rightly shouldn't be.

Speaking of "haven't we seen that before" Star Trek Discovery Ep.7 - caught in a time loop, now this has been done before I can't remember which episode of ST:TNG it was but that also was a time loop mystery-nothing like resurrecting tried and tested ideas, or maybe it was Discovery's homage to TNG? Interersting to bring back Harcourt Fenton Mudd(in the original Star Trek didn't he have some sort of harem of beautiful girls?) and make him the central figure in this episode.

There are rumours that Captain Pike might be getting his own series until it’s official taking it as a pinch of salt.

Also hearing rumours that the Section 31 spin off series might be delayed till next year.