Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

The Obama campaign didn't use the same system, they did not steal data from users like CA did. All data collected by the Obama campaign was voluntary

(25-03-2018 09:40 )babelover48 Wrote:  And are we the public who voted in the referendum the only REAL losers in this whole debacle?

yes

Ant-Brexit group Best for Britain have written to the PM with a list of questions in light of the Vote Leave Cambridge Analytica story. They are as follows:

What did Michael Gove and Boris Johnson know about the coordination of the Leave campaign and AIQ?

Is the prime minister planning to investigate what they knew about the claims?

Will the pair be recused from the Brexit “war cabinet” while these claims are being investigated?

Does the prime minister plan to investigate the staff mentioned in the reports who work for No 10?

Did No 10 directly out Sanni, or have any involvement in his outing?

Were government emails, phones or equipment used?

It has to be said that Number 10s public outing of whistleblower Shamir Sanni is another disgustingly depressing low point in our discourse, especially when you factor in that his family live in Pakistan where homosexuality it criminalised and they are now at risk due to this revelation

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...are_btn_tw

(22-03-2018 16:49 )Kevin555 Wrote:  

(22-03-2018 14:09 )admiral decker Wrote:  Since the £72.50 fee was established the annual recovery of the costs of providing passports has been reported to Parliament as follows:

2013/14 - 118% cost recovery
2014/15 - 113%
2015/16 - 116%
2016-17 - 131%

Hi
That is a lot of profit but if we need to hire more border staff then the profit on the passport will offset the cost of the additional staff perhaps.
Either way it is unfair on the person who requires a passport

It looks like you're right. The passport fees increased yesterday, despite the fact that the passport office is already more than recovering the costs of providing passports, as shown above. The government told parliament that the additional money is needed for border security, which is as you suggested.

One year to go!

Let's hope Year 2 goes better than Year 1, huh?

Well I'm slightly more optimistic than I was a year ago

The fact that even the rabid Brexiteers in the cabinet seem to accept the need for a transition period suggests they might be starting to get a grip on reality

(29-03-2018 20:27 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  The fact that even the rabid Brexiteers in the cabinet seem to accept the need for a transition period suggests they might be starting to get a grip on reality

They can't both have a hard border AND keep the DUP onside to keep them in government

Good laughs at the BBC arse-lickers praising Thezza's sturdy progress with Brexit; if you ignore the general election cock-up, losing several cabinet ministers, a cack-handed reshuffle, and so on...

...with the UK over 2 trillion pounds in debt...

http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

...which Brexit won't really solve.

^ Whereas the alternative is an anti Semitic Prime Minister with a hard left agenda which will bankrupt the country but establish us as the new Russian state in Western Europe

(29-03-2018 20:58 )Doddle Wrote:  

(29-03-2018 20:27 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  The fact that even the rabid Brexiteers in the cabinet seem to accept the need for a transition period suggests they might be starting to get a grip on reality

They can't both have a hard border AND keep the DUP onside to keep them in government

Good laughs at the BBC arse-lickers praising Thezza's sturdy progress with Brexit; if you ignore the general election cock-up, losing several cabinet ministers, a cack-handed reshuffle, and so on...

...with the UK over 2 trillion pounds in debt...

http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

...which Brexit won't really solve.

Not really a 'glass half empty' kind of guy, are you. More 'throw the glass on the ground and jump up and down on the broken shards with your bare feet' kind of guy

(29-03-2018 22:01 )SecretAgent Wrote:  an anti Semitic Prime Minister with a hard left agenda which will bankrupt the country but establish us as the new Russian state in Western Europe

And people think I'M over the top?!

The Tories have been ruining/running the UK economy for almost 8 years. Their debt recovery programmes go:

a) austerity
b) brexit

(cf. The High Street in crisis thread)

How many more decades do you think it will take for either of these plans to improve matters?

Well at the beginning of March President of The EU Council, Donald Tusk, stated that given the UK governments red lines on Brexit that the only deal that was possible is a Free Trade Agreement. The Government's own impact assessment figures for an FTA shows that it would result in a 5% loss in growth for The UK economy.

In 08 the economy shrank 0.5% and in 09 4.2%. So it looks like Brexit will hit us harder than both years of the financial crisis combined. So not only will we have to find ways to cover a loss of growth greater than that that led to all these years of austerity but also cover the cost of the near £40 bn divorce bill.

But the FTA only covers trade, it doesn't cover the fall in the pound or the fact that less migrant workers coming here (who pay more in tax & claim less in benefits) means not only a fall in income tax but a rise in unemployment because migrant workers are more likely to start a business than British citizens and in turn employ people

So yes this is going to be a shit show the UK is well & truly fucked