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RE: Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
I think this goes nowhere, and I blame America's dodgy dealing with Russia for it. Ukraine have already said that they won't accept any outcome of an America Russia deal, because they aren't stupid. They know what's happening, Putin keeps land, America gets rare earth minerals, Ukraine doesn't get the safety of NATO, even though NATO is pointless thanks to vetoes. An EU deal will go nowhere because Russia aren't involved and the nations that are up their arse say the EU has no right to discuss peace, well they have more right than America, so we know where Slovakia etc stand, it's certainly not for true peace in Ukraine. A bit of a mess all around.
As far as boots on the ground goes, that only happens if we go to war with Russia imo, I can't see any peacekeeping force being allowed to be in Ukraine without a fight, America have already made their part in it clear, as in they don't want to be involved. Imagine that, hey we'll do a deal for peace, our rules and what benefits us and Russia, but you can enforce it. Fuck off America!
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17-02-2025 14:27 |
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lovebabes56
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RE: Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
I think now the EU really has to show it's mettle and put individual countries ideas & needs to one side - and properly unite as one faction, from what has been said over the last few days, we cannot rely on the US to dig us out out of a hole forever - the time has come for the EU show what it can really do in a international crisis.
I too now begin to think that, putting a EU peacekeeping force in place in Ukraine would now be very difficult - while one side might agree to it and welcome it, the other side will see it as being a confrontational thing and wouldn't be happy, but whatever happens, any deal struck needs to allow Ukraine to keep it's sovereignty, land and borders intact, but the reality is that even that remains something of a remote possibilty which it shouldn't be. Even so I woildn't trust any deal Trump makes with Russia as being one that can last.
Also,making Putiin back down now is a lot harder than you think it is, the thing that strikes me as cold is both Russia & America talking and not involving Ukraine in that process, it doesn't sound at all right that two superpowers should even dictate the future of another country without involving the Ukrainians properly, and I will not be at all surprised if Zelenzky as he has hinted - rejects any deal outright,whatever deal they come up with.
IMO - America should be mediating any talks and should remain completely neutral in any talks.
But if anything be prepared to see Ukraine get screwed over - hard.
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(This post was last modified: 18-02-2025 18:48 by lovebabes56.)
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18-02-2025 09:16 |
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