Labour Leadership Contest

Of course Labour supporters want to win the next election but firstly they want leader who has the same values they do and not another snake oil salesman.

(21-07-2015 22:32 )lancealot790 Wrote:  Of course Labour supporters want to win the next election but firstly they want leader who has the same values they do and not another snake oil salesman.

I think Jeremy Corbyn would be a good interim leader, who could start to connect the leadership back with the main roots of the party. Something which they have been disconnected from since the time of Tony Blair. Then someone from the grass roots of the party might come through and succeed him as leader.

Whether Labour would get elected under the present fucked up conditions in the UK is debatable. What with 36yrs of the conservatives and the almost conservative party(aka new labour), a real hatchet job has been done on the minds of the majority of the people in the country, unfortunately.

his tonyness is giving a speech saying to labour dont lurch to the left thats Corbyn elected then

I wonder if Labour under Corbyn would sweep to power in the next General Election in 2020 or would t suffer a defeat on the scale it suffered in Scotland?

They could possibly do worse not because of corbyn but from fallout of the EU referendum and the rise of UKIP in the north last election depends on how much the NO vote will be if its about 45% to YES 55 % then could be trouble same as scotland was mind you will be 3 years til any election so might be able to pull it back. where as scotland was 7 months later

(21-07-2015 21:48 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Wow Yougov latest poll has Corbyn 43% his nearest rival Burnham 26% with cooper 20% and liz kendell 11%

^The blairite old guard are doing all they can to scupper Jeremy Corbyn's chances of being elected leader. If that Yougov poll is accurate then it's falling on deaf ears.

I will just add that if Labour wants to get back any support in Scotland, then Corbyn or someone like him would be their only chance.

(22-07-2015 10:04 )gunnar Wrote:  

(21-07-2015 21:48 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Wow Yougov latest poll has Corbyn 43% his nearest rival Burnham 26% with cooper 20% and liz kendell 11%

^The blairite old guard are doing all they can to scupper Jeremy Corbyn's chances of being elected leader. If that Yougov poll is accurate then it's falling on deaf ears.

I will just add that if Labour wants to get back any support in Scotland, then Corbyn or someone like him would be their only chance.

Sorry but scotland is irrelevent labour needs to win in the south east and south west to win the next general election.

^Or we could just wall off the south.

Every other political party must be laughing their socks off at the turmoil within Labour ranks. Sorry to say but if this continues I can see the party splitting. The idea that Corbyn could be an interim leader is farcical and would simply condemn Labour to years of further turmoil. Every party had to blend together the different wings and no party can get elected unless they appeal to a broader electorate than just their core vote. Labour lost the last election because they did not have wider appeal and lurching further to the left does nothing to address this. We all know that Corbyn is principled and deserves respect but do Labour supporters want principles and years in opposition or do they want to be the elected government with the chance to implement left of centre policies backed by the wider electorate?

The rise of Jeremy Corbyn reminds me of when Michael Foot was elected as the leader of the Labour party in the 1990's.
The Labour party went into the 1983 election with a strong socialist manifesto but lost to Maggie Thatcher by a landslide. And also four of the labour cabinet left the party, due to the lurch to the left, and formed the SDP.
Could simular things happen if Jeremy became the leader?