Goatman Reviews Wrestling

(21-01-2021 15:59 )Doddle Wrote:  I thought when you started this that you'd be doing classic reviews rather than current ones

Lol its gonna be a mix of both but mostly classic stuff though WM14 coming soon

(19-01-2021 17:36 )The Goatman Wrote:  ^^
Couple of questions
1. where do you work where people are wrestling fans ? Lol

2.Thats just a list from dave meltzer how on earth does he know how many people went to shows in 1910s lol i want to see facts and figures the thing with meltzer he never show evidence to his claims

3.And the list seems a little flawed because there are wrestlers on there who you know wasn't main eventing they just so happened to be on the same card as a big star...i mean most of those wrestlers in the 80's were riding Hogan's coattails. Anytime i see One Man Gang on a list as a draw and i dont care what year it was...it seems pretty flawed. Would triple h even be on the list if he wasnt around when all the huge stars like austin, rock, cena was drawing all the fans ?

4.why are there mma fighters on the list ?

1, was talking about people i know on line, sadly i only know a couple of people at my work into wrestling

2, dave meltzer is the bible of wrestling, hes done more trace the history of the sport than anyone else, his ranking system is the bench mark as its been exactly same way done for so long it can truly compare wrestlers over many years,

3, the slight problem any drawing system is that it can only take the main event into account so you will always get someone from time to time who makes a higher place than they really should due to being in there with someone more popular,

4, he counts mma and wrestling as the same part of sport,i dont agree with it,

(20-01-2021 12:20 )The Goatman Wrote:  Unlike most wcw ppvs this one got better as it went on, overall a great show worth checking out.
Show rating 8.5/10

good review, i would say thats one of the last wcw ppv to have a great main event as the politics that would kill wcw where already at work, stopping people who should have been pushed getting where they should be,
Juventud and konnan should have been much bigger stars in usa then they where both great to watch,
Rey mysterio jr vs billy kidman where to of the most fun wrestlers you could watch in that time never know why Kidman didn't make it in wwf,
Scott steiner vs booker T to great big men who always put on a show,
that really is a stacked card,
but seeing a lick ass like disco inferno so high on a ppv shows the problems that where killing wcw

WWF Wrestlemania 14

One of the first wwf shows i ever watched and it always brings back good memories

Opening match a 15 team battle royal:
This match only happened to re-introduce the leigon of doom as LOD2000
It amazes me how less attractive sunny is here compared to a year before... i guess drugs will do that to a girl, this was a basic battle royal nothing special.
LOD2000 Win
5/10

Next WWF Light Heavyweight title match
Aguila vs Taka Michinoku:
A decent match not anywhere near as good as what wcw was doing at the time,
Aguila went on to become essa rios a few years later.
Taka wins after a Michinoku driver
6/10

WWF European title match is next Triple H Vs Owen Hart:
Good match back and forth match chyna was handcuffed to sgt slaughter at the beginning of the match so was unable to interfere until the end after throwing powder in slaughters eyes and one low blow to owen hart later we have a winner
Triple H Wins 6.5/10

Next we have a mixed tag match Goldust & Luna vs Marc Mero & Sable:
Really entertaining match, i think this was well planned out for sable's first match she did a great job and jerry lawler was comedy gold on commentary
Mero & Sable wins after sable hits a tko on luna
7/10

WWF Intercontinental Championship The Rock vs Ken Shamrock:
Great match these two always worked so well together and its amazing to see how good the rock was,the way he moved around the ring he had so much athleticism, screwy finish but it worked and shamrock going mental at the end was great
The rock wins by DQ
7/10

WWF Tag Team Championship Dumpster Match Cactus Jack & Chainsaw Charlie vs. The New Age Outlaws:
Match of the night very fun match to watch
Cactus & chainsaw Wins 8.5/10

Up Next Kane Vs The Undertaker
The build up video before the match is a must see even though its silly its still sooo good also before the match kane tombstones pete rose,
The match itself was decent a bit slow but it told a story
Undertaker wins after the 3rd tombstone
6.5/10

Main Event Time
WWF Championship match
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Shawn Michaels:
This match was as good as it could be with michaels back issues you could actually see a change during the match in how much pain he was in..
Austin wins with the stunner amd tyson counts the 3
7/10

Overall a good show lots of entertainment and some good matches
Show rating 7/10

And as Jr says "The austin era has begun"

(21-01-2021 22:09 )winsaw Wrote:  

(19-01-2021 17:36 )The Goatman Wrote:  ^^
Couple of questions
1. where do you work where people are wrestling fans ? Lol

2.Thats just a list from dave meltzer how on earth does he know how many people went to shows in 1910s lol i want to see facts and figures the thing with meltzer he never show evidence to his claims

3.And the list seems a little flawed because there are wrestlers on there who you know wasn't main eventing they just so happened to be on the same card as a big star...i mean most of those wrestlers in the 80's were riding Hogan's coattails. Anytime i see One Man Gang on a list as a draw and i dont care what year it was...it seems pretty flawed. Would triple h even be on the list if he wasnt around when all the huge stars like austin, rock, cena was drawing all the fans ?

4.why are there mma fighters on the list ?

1, was talking about people i know on line, sadly i only know a couple of people at my work into wrestling

2, dave meltzer is the bible of wrestling, hes done more trace the history of the sport than anyone else, his ranking system is the bench mark as its been exactly same way done for so long it can truly compare wrestlers over many years,

3, the slight problem any drawing system is that it can only take the main event into account so you will always get someone from time to time who makes a higher place than they really should due to being in there with someone more popular,

4, he counts mma and wrestling as the same part of sport,i dont agree with it,

As i said before dave meltzer never shows any numbers or alway skews it to fit what ever his agenda is at the time... he never admits when he is wrong, he still believes that russo is the reason tna got kicked off spike which has been proven to be wrong by spike executives... fyi that story he got from cornette who hates russo lol and his star ratings are bullshit he has even said he doesn't even know how he comes up with them there is no system but i can tell you that the "best wrestlers" according to him change if they say anything about him look at seth rollins and aj styles he used to praise them to high heaven and they both said he was full of shit and now he never says anything good about them...
His star system is basically who kisses his arse the most gets higher star rating
Why do you think the young bucks always get 5-6 stars ? Because they are so great or because they named a mover after him ? I will say his star ratings back about 15-20 years ago was usually spot on but somewhere he lost his way and became a mark instead of an unbiased journalist.
He bigs up anyone who gives him dirts for years jim cornette and paul heyman were his sources why do you think he praises heyman so much never says anything against him ? Because he is the "genius" or because he is giving him dirt ?

Imo dave meltzer killed wrestling so saying he is the bible of wrestling is ridiculous he has done more to hurt it than help it.

^^ totally disagree dave meltzer is simply the best wrestling writer, i find his stars for matched to be accurate at least 90% of the time,
its not about kissing his ass its about actually being good, the reason seth rollins and aj styles are not rated as high now is they are half the wrestlers they where 5+ years ago, he dont have rose tinted glasses he calls it like it is, the AJ of today couldn't lase the boots of the AJ from ROH or who smashed it over here for the FWA, as usual wwe dose no one any good

(22-01-2021 15:24 )winsaw Wrote:  ^^ totally disagree dave meltzer is simply the best wrestling writer, i find his stars for matched to be accurate at least 90% of the time,
its not about kissing his ass its about actually being good, the reason seth rollins and aj styles are not rated as high now is they are half the wrestlers they where 5+ years ago, he dont have rose tinted glasses he calls it like it is, the AJ of today couldn't lase the boots of the AJ from ROH or who smashed it over here for the FWA, as usual wwe dose no one any good

Well i guess if you go by his star ratings then kenny omega and the young bucks are the greatest wrestlers ever Who would have thought it .. forget shawn michaels,bret hart,kurt angle,eddie guerrero, ric flair,steve austin,Undertaker,macho man,kenta kobashi, misawa,chris benoit,rey mysterio.... its kenny omega and the young bucks none of which sell anything or can talk or make anything look believable but yeah dave knows best

Also aj styles is a better complete wrestler now than he ever was, doing flips and stupid shit does not make you a good wrestler

And he dont have much competition as a wrestling writer does he? there are like 4 people thats like saying mary berry is the best tv baker..

^^ Kenny is the greatest wrestler in the world at the moment its as simple as that, there is no one better,
AJ is not a better wrestler now thats crazy talk, the AJ from ROH would wip the wwf AJ ass every day of the week, all hes better at now is talking on the mic,

(21-01-2021 22:44 )The Goatman Wrote:  WWF Wrestlemania 14


Overall a good show lots of entertainment and some good matches
Show rating 7/10

And as Jr says "The austin era has begun"

its a very interesting PPV as it a real changing of the guard show, its the end of the early - mid 90's superhero / cartoon era, and the start of the attitude era,

(22-01-2021 18:33 )winsaw Wrote:  ^^ Kenny is the greatest wrestler in the world at the moment its as simple as that, there is no one better,
AJ is not a better wrestler now thats crazy talk, the AJ from ROH would wip the wwf AJ ass every day of the week, all hes better at now is talking on the mic,

Well no because if you are going by meltzers star ratings nobody has more 5*+ matches than kenny omega and the young buck which would make them the greatest wrestlers ever

Theres no one better than kenny at what ? Making stupid facial expressions and not selling anything and having terrible looking punces... based on just an in ring aspect currently is he better than walter or okada ? I dont think so

Aj does pretty everything he used to do but has realised he doesnt need to do stupid shit.. he is no longer in school gyms in front of 200 people trying to get them to chant this is awesome by doing filps and hurting himself he has grown as a wrestler

I enjoy our debates mate