CPU, motherboard - very techi question

I have a 2008 desk top, for the most part does everything I need, but there's times it slightly struggles (editing for instance). Sooo, I got to thinking if I could upgrade the CPU.

The motherboard had the best recomended chip on it at the time, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6xx0 with Quad Core technology up to Q6600, which has been a fab little chip.

What i was wondering can ANY 775 pin with much the same specs replace the above chip. Mother board being:

http://support.hp.com/gb-en/product/HP-M.../c01077641

Or is that as good as it gets.

An incredibly technical question I'll give you that, but you never know.

Thanks.

Actually you could be better spending money on Ram and an Graphics Card how much ram do you have at the moment ?

those motherboard specs say you can have up to 8gb ram add a 1 or 2 gb ddr3 graphics card have to be careful about the power a card requires but can get a decent 1gb card for about 20-30 quid and 2gb for 40-60

(05-12-2015 10:17 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Actually you could be better spending money on Ram and an Graphics Card how much ram do you have at the moment ?

those motherboard specs say you can have up to 8gb ram add a 1 or 2 gb ddr3 graphics card have to be careful about the power a card requires but can get a decent 1gb card for about 20-30 quid and 2gb for 40-60

I have 6 gigs ram, and I don't know what it is but I don't have too much luck with graphic cards, everyone has failed on every pc I have had, last one being a geforce 210; so it's just the on board.

However, the power on this unit is only 300 (may be explains the graphics) so I'd need one of those too, cheap enough, it's finding the right shape to go in the case. Hence the reason I thought a chip might give it a little woomph.

Thanks for your reply.

Mines the other way round i seem to have my on board graphics blow on me lol

think my power supply is 300w as well

try something like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Graphics-Express...80&sr=1-17 only uses 75 watts and doesnt need any extra power other than what comes thru the motherboard

should be ok unless you are running a lot of hard disks or optical drives

Some interesting info here :

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Har...d-p/106124

With 6gb ram already installed, I'm not convinced upping that to 8gb would be a worthwhile investment, although it's possible you may be able to install 16gb. My pc officially supports 8gb, but I have 16 installed and working fine. At the time of manufacture, the best available compatible memory was 4gb sticks, so two sticks gave 8gb overall, but now there are 8gb sticks available and they work fine. Not an easy one to test, but if you have a small pc repair type shop nearby, you may be able to take it there and get them to try various configurations of compatible sticks to see if it works before buying (they are likely to have some sticks floating around you can use for testing).

For power supply, if it's an HP case you got, good luck with that. My old HP supply went, and it was over a hundred bucks for a replacement, second-hand! A new pc was cheaper. HP supplies are a 'special' size and shape that only HP use, same with some other components in there, hence there is a healthy strip-down market for second-hand parts. I used an old standard supply sat besides the pc with the case lid off to feed the cables through, ugly as hell, but worked

Another option to improve things may be to look at a solid state drive to replace the hard drive. I have one waiting to go into my pc, probably a christmas holiday project. If you get a small, but fast drive, you could just install the OS on that and leave the current hard drive for storage.
The likes of amazon have had some decent deals on ssd's lately, I've paid more for sd cards in the past (you may need a converter to adapt the cable sockets, and a tray to install it).

(05-12-2015 14:22 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Mines the other way round i seem to have my on board graphics blow on me lol

think my power supply is 300w as well

try something like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Graphics-Express...80&sr=1-17 only uses 75 watts and doesnt need any extra power other than what comes thru the motherboard

should be ok unless you are running a lot of hard disks or optical drives

Crickey, 75 watts. Yes, no idea what it is with the graphic cards. I have 2 hard discs and the one optical, but neither are in use often.

(05-12-2015 16:41 )munch1917 Wrote:  Some interesting info here :

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Har...d-p/106124

With 6gb ram already installed, I'm not convinced upping that to 8gb would be a worthwhile investment, although it's possible you may be able to install 16gb. My pc officially supports 8gb, but I have 16 installed and working fine. At the time of manufacture, the best available compatible memory was 4gb sticks, so two sticks gave 8gb overall, but now there are 8gb sticks available and they work fine. Not an easy one to test, but if you have a small pc repair type shop nearby, you may be able to take it there and get them to try various con.......

My desktop is this:

http://support.hp.com/gb-en/product/HP-M...l/3542409/

Completely silent.

As for ram I don't think i use all i have any way, I suppose no harm having it maxed, but the money could go elsewhere.

The power supply thing does seem to be an issue, mainly due to the positioning of the fan and power socket, which seems to be mirror image of any I have seen.

Been eyeing those ssd, for my mac book pro I got recently. Never thought about it for the desk top, I suppose I think is the pc coming to the end of it's life or do they go on for years and it's just the software and programs they no can no longer deal with. My first had a huge 120mb hdd and a staggering 4mb ram, I supposed looked after properly it would still be alright, but it would be no use for anything other than commander keen.

Thanks for your replys.

Ebuyer.com is good for SSD i got this about 6 months ago http://www.ebuyer.com/411692-kingston-12...0s37a-120g good for putting windows on wont be as fast with older SATA 2 really needs Sata 3 but ok performance

you could up your raw cpu power by jumping to socket 1150 or even 1151.
but it would mean a £300-350 spend. you would literally double your cpu performance for things like editing.
wont do a lot for gaming but video editing would benefit from the faster cpu, ram and bus speeds.

from what i can find the max spec cpu is the q6600 on that board
the motherboard will take a max of 8 gig of ram.
the psu is a 300w standard unit...

you could go a budget rout and get an amd 8 core 8gig ddr3 1600-2133 and get very good video editing performance.


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about £275 if you go with 16 gigs of 2133

if you wanna go the intel rout.
then any i5 quadcore (k series) 8-16 gig ddr3 1600-1866 with an oc enabled motherboard. for about 325

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honestly i wouldnt bother putting an ssd in a 775 build. due to the older sata/pci-e standards mean limited bandwidth and limited compatability.
the ssd gains would be minimal over a hdd, and could cause bottlenecking on read writes across disks. due to being sata 2
anyhoo, just opinions. personally i would go with the intel build. although the amd isnt far off and costs a fair bit less.

gpu compatibility on your current motherboard may be an issue if it has a 1.0a pci-e slot. pci-e 2 wasnt completely compatible with it. so a lot of pci-e 2+ cards dont work with the earlier standard. if the pci-e is 1.1 then you should be fine.

max recommended would probably be a 750ti or equivalent amd and a 350w minimum psu, 450w preferred.

(06-12-2015 00:00 )HEX!T Wrote:  from what i can find the max spec cpu is the q6600 on that board
the motherboard will take a max of 8 gig of ram.
the psu is probably a 350w standard unit.....

Some good advice there HEX!T, though 300 - 350 is out on a pc of this age. The psu is very intersting to know, I was thinking 400 - 500w, probably have frazzled me board. And the ssd.

I suppose it's looking like the HannahsPet suggestion of that graphic card is looking the most economical. There again I probably should stop being a tight wad and get a new rig.

Thanks for all your help and advice.