How do you think the babes view what they are doing?

(14-01-2012 15:24 )Rees No.1 fan Wrote:  

(14-01-2012 03:04 )mellover Wrote:  I read on here somewhere, that Karina Curry thought she was blazing a trial for feminism.

-----well paid to cater to men's fantasies on the phone or on film------I dare say that it is largely men who are the owners and managers of these channels and who are, in a Marxist sense, exploiting her by expropriating profits from her labour.

You said it your self bud. If she run and owned her own site like Yazmin Daniels fairly do's.

(16-01-2012 12:50 )StanTheMan Wrote:  Lying on a bed for 8 hrs a day, gabbing on the phone with several 40 min+ breaks throughout their shift... and getting paid lots of money to do so. Suffice to say I can imagine worst gigs.

You might be looking at it through rose tinted glasses. I assume a lot do it because it's good money in a recession.

I once spoke to a model on the jazmin site. A Russian, and even back in 2006 they where charging 1.50/m. She told me that she received 35p out of that. this of course is a lot of money to a Russian. However, when she was doing nothing with no calls she got jack and some sessions she got no calls and thus nothing. Because of this, she had to work in the day, so she was up a good bit of the night and then working in the day, poor girl didn't know if she was coming or goign, use to see her falling to sleep.

The people making the REAL money out of this, was the poeple who owned it and by all accounts these where very unpleasant men that you knew not to cross.

Luckily, she said she was goign for a job with the government, and I heard no more of her, I assume she got it and stop the job in one.

It's just a job at the end of the day, if a girl feels degraded, ashamed whatever then they shouldn't be doing this job in the first place, it is what it is.

To say you can't like a job like this (not implying anyone said that) is bollocks, I don't know why sexuality has to be so rejected in this world.

(17-01-2012 18:33 )mellover Wrote:  The people making the REAL money out of this, was the poeple who owned it and by all accounts these where very unpleasant men that you knew not to cross.

I'm sorry, but that's nonsense. That might be the case with Eastern Euros on cam sites but there's no way that's the case with the girls on the TV channels, especially on the big shows like Elite and Babestation. I heard a while back the girls get paid something like £500-1000 a night on some occasions, more for the more well known glamour girls. They make more in a night than many do in a month, so two or three nights a week and they're sorted. Plus, they presumably get paid to do all those photoshoots etc. for the websites, these girls certainly aren't struggling.

(17-01-2012 18:33 )mellover Wrote:  

(16-01-2012 12:50 )StanTheMan Wrote:  Lying on a bed for 8 hrs a day, gabbing on the phone with several 40 min+ breaks throughout their shift... and getting paid lots of money to do so. Suffice to say I can imagine worst gigs.

You might be looking at it through rose tinted glasses. I assume a lot do it because it's good money in a recession.

I once spoke to a model on the jazmin site. A Russian, and even back in 2006 they where charging 1.50/m. She told me that she received 35p out of that. this of course is a lot of money to a Russian. However, when she was doing nothing with no calls she got jack and some sessions she got no calls and thus nothing. Because of this, she had to work in the day, so she was up a good bit of the night and then working in the day, poor girl didn't know if she was coming or goign, use to see her falling to sleep.

The people making the REAL money out of this, was the poeple who owned it and by all accounts these where very unpleasant men that you knew not to cross.

Luckily, she said she was goign for a job with the government, and I heard no more of her, I assume she got it and stop the job in one.

I don't see how pointing out how things work in the Eastern Europe (Especially Russia) is applicable over here at all.

Who cares, just bring it on! It pays their wages, and if thats good enough for them, then its good enough for me. Who am I to judge or opine over what they are doing. SIMPLZ!!

I find it does make a bit of a difference. At the end of the day despite their motives for a job etc., they are still entering willingly into a sexual act, be it very one sided, and willing to say and act in ways to try to bring someone else to climax. For those who acknowledge it, there is still a degree of intimacy and sexuality in those kinds of acts.

And much like any job, there is always a sense of 'well I wouldn't be doing this on my day off', but even so, much like any job there is often a sense of 'well while I am here, I may as well get on well with whomever I work with, colleagues and customers, and enjoy ourselves while we are at it.' Not trying to assume too much connection there, but a bit of customer courtesy in a sexual act goes a long way.

I am intrigued whether there is anything much to say about the second example I threw out there, about the trends to use media for sexuality and whether the babechannels are a part of that. I would imagine some of the girls were familiar with things like camming, skyping, sexting etc. perhaps as part of their own personal developing sexuality before joining TV babechannels. It might seem quite natural to some. It also suggests this is part of a trend that is becoming very normalised, for good or bad I suppose.

(17-01-2012 19:28 )Scotsman Wrote:  

(17-01-2012 18:33 )mellover Wrote:  The people making the REAL money out of this, was the poeple who owned it and by all accounts these where very unpleasant men that you knew not to cross.

I'm sorry, but that's nonsense. That might be the case with Eastern Euros on cam sites but there's no way that's the case with the girls on the TV channels, especially on the big shows like Elite and Babestation. I heard a while back the girls get paid something like £500-1000 a night on some occasions, more for the more well known glamour girls. They make more in a night than many do in a month, so two or three nights a week and they're sorted. Plus, they presumably get paid to do all those photoshoots etc. for the websites, these girls certainly aren't struggling.

I should imagine many of these women are millionaires or close to it. If they earn a £1000 a night, do that for 3 nights,, that's £3000 a week, 52 weeks a year, that's £150,000 a year. If they save £100,000 a year after 10 years that's a million in the bank. That's not including as you say,the money they get from photoshoots from other mags or the ones that do pornography or are escorts or both.

Yeah there must be those who are millionaires, or are well on their way. Someone like Alice Goodwin for example, who brings a lot of popularity from her glamour work, can probably command quite high fees from Elite for her shifts there, even though they're few and far between at this point. She will then make money from the photoshoots she does for them (and maybe a percentage from pics and vids sold? Not sure on that) as well as the money she rakes in from Zoo photoshoots etc. It's not as hard to become a millionaire as it once was and I'm sure girls with that 'prestige' factor are at least well on their way.

Then the hard working, long term girls like Dani O'Neal, Tiffany Chambers and Dionne Mendez probably get a fair whack and have been doing numerous shifts a week for almost a decade. They can't be short of a few bob by now.

I just wonder what the babeshow girl's parents and family and siblings think of them????? Whether they even fell out with there family because of what they do especially those on the night shows.

Would love to hear your replies on that guys. Imagine if your daughter/girlfriend/sister was appearing on a night show flashing herself and talking dirty for 8 hours.

I mean I know I enjoy watching them perform, but my thoughts above never occurred to me until I read this post on the forum.....