The future of the nightshow/Are you happy?

(27-07-2009 17:52 )vostok 1 Wrote:  For those of you who have a cloudy memory and think Babe Star was taken off air for being "too hard", that was not the case.

OFCOM and the ASA gave them a chance to rectify the problems. They chose not to.

What the Girls show/do not show is defined by the individual channels producers.

OFCOM are not standing in the corner of the studio with big stick telling the Girls what to do.

A really fasinating post, vostok, and I mean that sincerely, but I can't accept things are quite as black and white as you suggest.

These channels know we want harder material, so if what you suggest is true (that it wasn't Babestar's output that brought its demise) why don't any of the current channels offer similarly explicit material?

Depends how far ahead you wanna look really what when things like BT vision become the Norm an broadband speeds improve enough most tv will be watched though stuff like BT Vision with a internet connect so dunno if Ofcom has a diffrent set of rules for IPTV.

We tend to follow trends of the other mainland Euro countries,with our viewing,and on the contenant,these types of channels went much harder than the UK,but are now on the decline with the channels closing down.....not sure that will happen her,but if Ofcom are disbanded after the next election,these channels might go in to a free for all....

It'd be good to see harder stuff sometimes but you can get it on the internet so its not that big a deal. Besides I don't phone or text in so why should they care about my opinion? I contribute sweet F.A. to the channels so its not really important what I think as they make nothing from doing what I want them to.

At the end of the day as long as I get to see tits n ass like I do now i'm happy.

(27-07-2009 13:52 )steven6 Wrote:  The channels are at they're lowest point since they began. I personally think that the girls should be able to put they're hands down they're pants when on the phone, i think this would attract more viewers and would be more interesting to watch

If that's what you want to see then fair enough. Just bear in mind a lot of the girls don't want to stick their hands down their pants. I might be wrong but I just can't see the likes of Dionne,Yvette,Tiffany and Toya to name a few doing this, and if it was made compulsory they'd probably just leave the shows altogether or move to another channel where they don't have to. Which is probably why a lot of channels won't let this happen because they don't want to lose their girls to rival channels. The pornstars won't have a problem, just some of the glamour models may object.

(01-08-2009 20:09 )seth Wrote:  ... just some of the glamour models may object.

There's no such thing as 'glamour models', just different levels of porn. It's just snobbiness from certain girls, in my opinion. As soon as they get their tits out, it's porn.

(01-08-2009 20:09 )seth Wrote:  ....
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Just bear in mind a lot of the girls don't want to stick their hands down their pants. I might be wrong but I just can't see the likes of Dionne,Yvette,Tiffany and Toya to name a few doing this, and if it was made compulsory they'd probably just leave the shows altogether or move to another channel where they don't have to.
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I can quite easily imagine Tiffany sticking her hand down her pants. Particularly if she's in one of her "naughty" moods.
I agree with you about the other 3 girls though.

(01-08-2009 20:49 )StanTheMan Wrote:  

(01-08-2009 20:09 )seth Wrote:  ... just some of the glamour models may object.

There's no such thing as 'glamour models', just different levels of porn. It's just snobbiness from certain girls, in my opinion. As soon as they get their tits out, it's porn.

Some it may be snobbishness, some just won't want to do it, and others will only do it on their website for more money.

(31-07-2009 00:37 )StanTheMan Wrote:  A really fasinating post, vostok, and I mean that sincerely, but I can't accept things are quite as black and white as you suggest.

These channels know we want harder material, so if what you suggest is true (that it wasn't Babestar's output that brought its demise) why don't any of the current channels offer similarly explicit material?

Sorry it took a while to reply Stan, not been online much in the last week.

I think the Babe shows are probably in something of a transitional period at the moment with the ofcom consultation looming.

These are the proposals on "Adult Sex Material":
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/...9/main.pdf
(parts 4 and 6)

However, there will be a separate consultation for the babe shows in the autumn, postponed from the initial consultation last spring.

Here is the response from the Participation Broadcasters Association, which is the trade body that represents various "anonymous" channel owners:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/...tv_ass.pdf

So I guess future plans for the Babe Shows hinge on what happens in the autumn consultation.

(06-08-2009 22:20 )vostok 1 Wrote:  So I guess future plans for the Babe Shows hinge on what happens in the autumn consultation.

Can I suggest none of us hold our breath, just to be on the safe side.

I predict the outcome of these new proposals will have little or no effect, just like they did last time. I can't express how excited I was, a few years ago, when I heard news that Ofcom wanted to hand most of the responsibility for these channels' output over to the programme makers and viewers. That idea never saw the light of day, did it? Having said that, though, and to be fair to the Babeshows, I think they did try to make the best of their new rights, and gave us some fairly good material for a time, but Ofcom soon stepped in, so what was the point of the proposal in the first place?