[split] Elite TV/Studio 66 - General Chat & Discussion
If the Harry's last post this evening is to be taken as her exit from the forum then that is a shame. No-one should feel pushed out of any discussion on here. She seems to have taken some things said very personally not all of which were intended that way I'm sure.
Not trying to sit on the fence here (splinters in the ass!), but reading back over this bit of [now split] thread from the turn of the year is quite enlightening. There seems to be a fair amount of preconceived ideas, and a lack of understanding of the other, on display from both sides in all this - resulting in quite a bit of hyperbole all round IMO.
Harry seems to have been frustrated by the level of interest and fierce discussion of the minutiae of the channels that goes on here. Well, forums breed comment is all I can say... on everything! (Although, I'm with her as far as the s66/Xf different or same company thing! Who the f**k cares! All that matters there, surely, is that they are overseen by the same guy for compliance.)
Her post claiming slander seemed a little touchy and defensive but then again that could be said of a number on here - for obvious reasons I guess! But she was mainly defending her mates so I can't knock her for that.
Diva-ness is not something that I thought when I read that one though I must say. It was more the slightly preachy tone that made me reply at the time. (Harry said herself she was being 'rude'.)
There were a couple of misunderstandings ahead of all this: A patently jokey OSG about Fernanda working the camera and Harry's remark about the girls dictating when they go break are taken as empirical facts and somehow interpreted as evidence of "the girls running studio66"!
To me, Fernanda behind the camera was obviously her 'having a go' for 5 minutes as we all would if we worked at a small TV station. (Not the 6 O'Clock News is it?!) Harry's break comment is also only really specific to the girl and her good relationship with her bosses at XF. She didn't say all the girls get to chose whenever they go on their breaks, at every channel, under every circumstance! I'm sure I remember Hannah Martin saying on this forum a fair while ago that she had been turned down in the past when she asked to go on break. So, it is surely more the case that breaks are routinely OK-ed by the producers but occasionally have to be refused if they realise too many girls are going to be off screen at once (ie. Rammy was right on this one.) (None of this is important stuff per se but people seem to have read much into these 'facts' so I thought I'd say how it looks to me.)
Latterly, the self employed thing also seems like irrelevance to me sorry. Main thing: It allows the channel bosses to be flexible with the hours they offer on a week-by-week basis, no? As has been said, both parties still can walk way if really pissed off with the other; I don't see how it makes any difference really. Surely it was fairly obvious from how much some girls move around the channels that that is how things work. Like all these thing, ultimately each party needs the other... I don't even see how it can be seen as any great indication on rates of pay either sorry. Most of the girls must still be on a fairly good secure/regular income. (Is there really that much of a shortage of potential models for the channels btw?)
This forum is definitely less well off if people in the industry refuse to connect with it. But, like it or not people on here do put serious money the way of the channels. Throwing a strop and walking away every time (if that is what she did) is not going to help.
Finally, to all the people who say why are you so bothered about what you knock one off to I say this: Why did Playboy make far more money than the other men's mags back in the day? People tend to look for apparent 'quality' in everything they do. Wank material is no different. Why not ask for what I/we want? You never know, just for once, someone might be listening.
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(This post was last modified: 03-01-2015 22:55 by ShandyHand.)
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