The "Official Football thread" Part Two...

Sorry to see Newcastle go down but it's seemed inevitable for a few seasons - it's been more of a circus than a football club, several clowns walking a tightrope and now the big top's fallen down. I think Shearer was only brought in to soften the blow which everyone expected. Michael Owen will be on his way as we speak (to Arsenal, Blackburn, Everton or Man City) at a guess. Viduka will call it a day, wouldn't be surprised if Nicky Butt retires as well and Alan Smith may go home to Leeds.

Where do you start for who'll get relegated next season though - Hull, sunderland, wolves, birmingham, bolton, blackburn, sheffield utd or Burnley. Stoke, Portsmouth, wigan even - if you're half decent there's well over forty points guaranteed off that lot, home and away.

What about promotion? I see Newcastle are already installed as 9/8 favourites for promotion next season, followed by the two other relegated sides, both at 2/1. Mind you, QPR were the bookies favourites for promotion this year and they finished 11th.

Newcastle going down might be a blessing in disguise,give them a chance to sort things out starting with some of thier overpaid players who never performed for the club.They have a huge Wage Bill (some report £71m!!!) and now a reduced Income How many Managers this season, was it 4, lost count,why appoint Kevin keegan ( The Messiah) and then bring in Dennis Wise...anyone could see it would end in tears...then later appoint Alan Shearer (The Messiah..hang on didnt they have one of those already).He wins 1 game in 8!!!!!!!!!!!! I wont mention Sam Allardyce.
They sacked Bobby Robson ( treated very shabbily) because he only came 5th,thats where thier problems started ,they should have managed Bobby upstairs because he always did the best for Newcastle and bring in a young Manager to work under him. Since Bobby was sacked everybody seemed to work to undermine each other. Too many big egos
If you wanted to see how not to run a Premier League Club then just look at Newcastle

Thier fans might be "the best in the world" but they need to be more more realistic in thier outlook. (Heard one say that next season they would be promoted and then be in the Champions League the following season)
They need to start to build a Team,set realistic goals and plan for the future not just next week. They could do worse than look at how Wenger reorganised Arsenal from top to bottom.
(This is coming from a Spurs fan and God knows weve got our problems.. dont mention underachieving).
Anyway I wish them luck but I do fear for them ....just look at the former Premier League teams in the lower leagues

Chilly Wrote:Hahahaha. So there is something positive about Mansfield after all. Christ that place is a dump! Crap football team too.

Hey - I live in Mansfield! And yes I do support Mansfield Town aswell. They not crap anymore.

yes they are rubbish i support man utd

lee est Wrote:yes they are rubbish i support man utd

Man Utd your having a laugh,everyone know who the best team in the world are

the problem with the newcastle fans are that they are incredibly unrealistic.
They idolise Keven Keegan yet he is proven to be, extremly limited as a tactician, spotter and developer of talent, and a quitter who bolts at the first sign of trouble.

Look at how he walked out on England (straight after the germany deafeat) when they had a big qualiying game coming up a few days later stating' i am not up to it at international level' everyone (most of all newcastle fans) said it was proof that he was honest to himself and the fans. Absolut rubbish if he quit after the finland game stating that argument where England had at least 3 or 4 months to prepare for the next game then I would say yes he is an honest man but the fact that he made that decision straight after the germany game with the team having 3 days left to prepare is the behaviour of a spoilt rash adolescent.(did the nasty fans shout at you Kevin? awww)

he did well at newcastle previously when they and Man utd were the only teams who had serious money and he tried to get rid of the youth team (which for once the fans showed great judgement and made obvious they would not tolerate) proving then that he was a check book manager who had no interest in medium or long term building of the club . True they played very attractive exciting Football but they had the money to buy top class footballers and anyoe with the backing Keegan had could have done the same. How did he reward the clubs faith in him? thats right he walked out on them.

Sam Alladyce however with his proven record of building teams up from obscurity at Bolton; who as soon as he arrived said it will take at least 3 years for his policies to take effect; such as getting players out he does not want, getting players in he does, finding a way to get them to play together and developing a culture at the club; had them at tenth after 5 months in charge when the supporters put incredible pressure on Mike ashley to remove him (saying you dont know what you are doing) for a man such as King Kev.

A real shocker that did not turn out well. Surprise surprise he walked out again; to be fair he was promised he would be allowed to do it hs way and have only his players and Ashley did not honour that. But the fact he would not have an open check book and do what most managers are expected to do i.e optimise scarce resouces I believe was a bigger reason.

Many months later arrive super Al their knight in shinning armour( Who incidently, was offered the job straight after Keegan walked out and turned it down) now going to take over with 9 games left . And he was hailed their saviour. It was a no lose situtaion for Shearer and he knew it. Keep them up he would be a god, get relegated it was that ghastly Sam Alladyce, and the cockney mafias fault. Well now they have got him they deserve him, they are stuck with him. True his legendary status might buy him time but we all know that if Newcastle are not flying high and dead certs to come up next season, around january time, the fans will find a conveneint scapegoat. lets not forget Shearer got Bobby Robson the sack so he will have no sympathy if and when the newcastle fans turn on him.


To sum up Newcastle fans have no appreciation of who is a good manager, what it takes to be a great manager nor the patience to let his policies bear fruit. As a result their will come a time when no good manager in his right mind will want to come anywhere near Newcastle.

I am also a Manchester United fan by the way.

lee est Wrote:Yes, they are not rubbish, anyways I support Manchester United.

Leila's Chippity Chip Wrote:I am also a Manchester United fan by the way.

lee est Wrote:Yes, they are not rubbish, anyways I support Manchester United.

i dont know who this guy is (I have never come acrosss him before) this post is strange. if he is not going to give a serious opinion on football matters, why has he entered this thread? He also calls him self Leila number one fan yet he has a picture Of Rikki Raxxx surrounded by a love heart, odd. I'm glad to say I have never had any previous dealing with this guy before either though posts or chatroom and long may it continue

I kind of feel I have to leap to Chipper's defence here. His reply was to lee est in another thread and in that context does make sense. That is Leila in the love heart and he's actually a very good guy (despite his support of the nasty red men from down the road).
Apologies if the wink at the end indicates that you're having a laugh with him - it's always so difficult to tell.