New Ofcom Rules

(19-12-2010 21:01 )cherry delainey Wrote:  Well my views are simple, don't like it - don't watch.

I fear many will do precisley that now, Cherry.

NB: Just need to clear up that I've taken a lot out of the above quote from Cherry, and it now sounds a little misleading. She was not, as it sounds from that quote, supporting the new rules and saying 'like it or lump it'. The above line is in fact, in reference to how the dayshows were before the new rules.

Blame / Thank BangBabes -
Yes, they "challeged" Ofcoms rules, but they were totally incompetent about it. If taking on a regulator it helps to have a gameplan. Simply not turning up to hearings and not supplying recordings was never going to work. A well worded solicitors letter stating why they felt Ofcom had exceeded their legal authority might have been a start.

Pubes -
Ofcom object to labial and anal detail, pubes are just hair.

TVX Liveshows -
Dropped because TVX has a track record of doing that. The latest run lasted longer than the previous 2, but its been a while since they have had Girl-Girl action as advertised. The shows were so tame they can hardly have been pulling in enough pay-per-view or new subscriptions to justify keeping an extra studio until 2am.
Besides, the owner of TVX now has half a billion pounds tied up in Channel 5 and might be trying to work out how to get an invite to the Royal wedding.

As GPP points out in another thread, the guidelines are of very dubious legal standing. Either they correctly encapsulate the General Standards survey carried out in 2009, in which case Ofcom is guilty of gross icompetence for failing to issue usable guidance earlier, or they are different and Ofcom are trying to move the goalposts away from General Standards - contrary to legislation. Either way I expect a very high profile sacking. Ofcom acts like an East European burgomeister - "do what I say and dont question my authority" rather than like an impartial and professional regulator.

Does anyone remember far enough back to identify what triggered the onslaught against BangBabes? Im sure a detailed check of the records would turn up a date when Ofcom started targetting them specifically, and perhaps before that some disputed compliance case, but Im on double shifts for the next week and really dont have the time to dig back 18-24 months.

Double Standards -
1/ X-Factor: Never mind Christine Aguillera and her 12a rated dance, what about blatant advertising for various performers singles and albums?
2/ Strictly Come Dancing BBC1 Sat 18 Dec 7:55pm: Extended and gratuitious view of Pamela Stephensons knickers. She ended her dance with legs apart in front on a low level camera that had a clear well lit view of her crotch. That must have been planned by BBC management (I suspect Pam didnt even know how much was on show).
3/ Antichrist on Sky Arts 2, Sun 19 Dec 10:00pm. Within the first few minutes there as a clear shot of an erect penis pumping a vagina.

The General Attitudes survey found that being a sex-themed channel in the Adult part of the EPG IS context.

Finally - front page of todays Sunday Times: Ed Vaizey, Communications Minister is in talks with broadband suppliers about internet porn locks at the ISP end. Porn sites will be blocked unless the customer asks for the lock to be removed. While this might seem a step towards government control of content (or even worse, control by a pressure group), it makes it increasingly difficult for Ofcom to explain why they do not "ask" Sky to ship Sky boxes with the Adult section turned off. Once they do that it becomes difficult to argue that the vicar could tune into the wrong channel by accident, destoying complaints based on "general expectations of the audience".

(18-12-2010 22:17 )Scottishbloke Wrote:  NEW OFCOM RULES

1 Clothing to be worn between 5:30am-9:00pm (Dresses, Hot Pants and Vest tops, Fantasy Costumes (Maid, Stewardess, Secretary etc). Lingerie under any of the above, but not uncovered lingerie.
2 No breasts fully exposed before 10pm. Implied topless acceptable.

you are either toppless or not. are the babes allowed to wear see through tops?

dont know but implied topless means that the boobs can come out but the babes has to keep the nips coverd. so has to use the handbra

Quote:Does anyone remember far enough back to identify what triggered the onslaught against BangBabes? Im sure a detailed check of the records would turn up a date when Ofcom started targetting them specifically, and perhaps before that some disputed compliance case, but Im on double shifts for the next week and really dont have the time to dig back 18-24 months.

far as i can remember it was lollypopgate with amanda rendall inserting a lollypop in jemma's pussy is what triggered the onslaught against bang, agree there is double standards ie ofcom allow full frontal nudity language etc on normal tv yet wont with the babeshows

and it does irritate me that ofcom ignore the fact that skyboxes have pin protection built in which can be turned on or off in the settings

(20-12-2010 11:53 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  dont know but implied topless means that the boobs can come out but the babes has to keep the nips coverd. so has to use the handbra

Quote:Does anyone remember far enough back to identify what triggered the onslaught against BangBabes? Im sure a detailed check of the records would turn up a date when Ofcom started targetting them specifically, and perhaps before that some disputed compliance case, but Im on double shifts for the next week and really dont have the time to dig back 18-24 months.

far as i can remember it was lollypopgate with amanda rendall inserting a lollypop in jemma's pussy is what triggered the onslaught against bang, agree there is double standards ie ofcom allow full frontal nudity language etc on normal tv yet wont with the babeshows

and it does irritate me that ofcom ignore the fact that skyboxes have pin protection built in which can be turned on or off in the settings

If i remember correctly Bangmedia had already been targeted by Ofcom before Amanda and Jemma started , i think it was the Jet Black small oily G string close ups that Ofcom first got involved with , then i think the 2 and 3 girl orgies sections were also mentioned in Ofcom's bulletins .

I remember them picking on Bangmedia long before lollipopgate.

Ofcom have been on at the Babeshows ever since the body was introduced - 2002/03??

I think the last truly explicit, no holds barred incident was the Dani O'Neal Private Babe sessions way back when Babestation was the only channel around. I know we've had many explicit moments since, and of course there was the rise and fall of Babestar, but wasn't it the afore mentioned Private Babe sessions that prompted Ofcom to start drawing up a set of regulations for the Babeshows?

As far as I can remember, the Babeshow (Babestation) started out as a very tame, no-nudity type flirty thing - much like the dayshows now. Then a few of the braver ones started getting their tits out and it kind of snowballed from there. Pretty soon the producers of these shows began to cotton onto the fact that there were no real guidlines in place - as the live babeshow was a totaly new concept in this country - and so we ended up with the pretty much hardcore sessions we had with Private Babe.

All this is guesswork and presumptions, so I could have it all wrong.

(20-12-2010 18:52 )StanTheMan Wrote:  Ofcom have been on at the Babeshows ever since the body was introduced - 2002/03??

I think the last truly explicit, no holds barred incident was the Dani O'Neal Private Babe sessions way back when Babestation was the only channel around. I know we've had many explicit moments since, and of course there was the rise and fall of Babestar, but wasn't it the afore mentioned Private Babe sessions that prompted Ofcom to start drawing up a set of regulations for the Babeshows?

As far as I can remember, the Babeshow (Babestation) started out as a very tame, no-nudity type flirty thing - much like the dayshows now. Then a few of the braver ones started getting their tits out and it kind of snowballed from there. Pretty soon the producers of these shows began to cotton onto the fact that there were no real guidlines in place - as the live babeshow was a totaly new concept in this country - and so we ended up with the pretty much hardcore sessions we had with Private Babe.

All this is guesswork and presumptions, so I could have it all wrong.

I think the biggest ofcom fine prior to lollypop-gate was for TVX in 2008, because of this in 2007
http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=1211
It was the first vid I ever uploaded, shortly after joining the forum over 2 years ago.
The download links still seem to be working, but the vids were made before I got software to create smaller files and they are quite large. I don't know how many times they got downloaded since I was an anonymous user then before I got my megaupload account
I still have the originals, I might re-master them some time.

(20-12-2010 18:52 )StanTheMan Wrote:  Ofcom have been on at the Babeshows ever since the body was introduced - 2002/03??

I think the last truly explicit, no holds barred incident was the Dani O'Neal Private Babe sessions way back when Babestation was the only channel around. I know we've had many explicit moments since, and of course there was the rise and fall of Babestar, but wasn't it the afore mentioned Private Babe sessions that prompted Ofcom to start drawing up a set of regulations for the Babeshows?

As far as I can remember, the Babeshow (Babestation) started out as a very tame, no-nudity type flirty thing - much like the dayshows now. Then a few of the braver ones started getting their tits out and it kind of snowballed from there. Pretty soon the producers of these shows began to cotton onto the fact that there were no real guidlines in place - as the live babeshow was a totaly new concept in this country - and so we ended up with the pretty much hardcore sessions we had with Private Babe.

All this is guesswork and presumptions, so I could have it all wrong.

Was that the Dani and the Banana trick or the week or so before when she stood up pulled down her denim shorts and did her pumping bum hole trick? She Had heavenly sitting beside her and I think she was even looking at her like Can you do that on TV. I cant remember where I found the caps but I am sure these are the ones from the bum trick shot.

(18-12-2010 22:17 )Scottishbloke Wrote:  This is the official new ofcom rules which came into place on Friday 17th December 2010.

NEW OFCOM RULES

1 Clothing to be worn between 5:30am-9:00pm (Dresses, Hot Pants and Vest tops, Fantasy Costumes (Maid, Stewardess, Secretary etc). Lingerie under any of the above, but not uncovered lingerie.
2 No breasts fully exposed before 10pm. Implied topless acceptable.
3 No nudity before 11pm. A performer can be fully nude and use a static straight hand with straight fingers to cover themselves. Ofcom accepted that this does not constitute masturbation.

Where can I find these new rules? By what process were they arrived at? I've seen no mention of them in the e-mail updates I recieve direct from Ofcom.