Is Censorship A Necessary Evil?

Well with 2000 job cuts hitting the BBC, do you think there's any chance of the same amount of job cuts hitting Ofcom? I'd love to think so!!

TV is dumbing our society right down. More people then ever sit down in front of a T.V now and zone out to the adverts, I mean, TV programmes that are on. Once upon a time a very limited amount, BBC 1 and 2, ITV, now we have hundreds to pick from... Hundreds of channels, each and every one of them hand picked by the top dogs at Sky for us to watch. Why? It is believe it or not mind control for the masses. We are told what to buy with adverts and subliminal messages. It is mass condition.

As I have said in the past, it is NO coincidence Rupert Murdoch is behind Sky.

(06-10-2011 14:23 )Sooky™ Wrote:  

Yes, I heard that somewhere else.

(04-10-2011 22:57 )RESPONSIBLE ADULT Wrote:  Without censorship would the Babechannels and the forums such as this be a much more forbidding place to visit. Or would it bring a choice of freedom of expression, and a freedom of speech, to which I think we should all have access to. I ask the question because. remarkable as it seems, some members on these boards would feel uncomfortable if we had total freedom.

Two things are needed. Freedom to make arousing babeshows without fear, and secure access to channels by a range of independent operators. Right now its difficult for an independent to get an adult licence and channel and ruinously expensive. They are tolerated until they start pushing the boundaries by showing innovative conent or getting close to the knuckle. Then we see the chilling effect of Ofcom - any competitor can get a stooge to put in a series of complaints backdated a month (so its repeated breeches, not just one) and from then the channel is in a death spiral.

Result? The small number who stay in business toe the line and show dull conformist content because only that is guaranteed safe.

Should there be total freedom? Personally I draw the line at what is legal on film, in strip clubs and legal on DVD. Extreme S&M isnt just unpleasant, it raises serious questions about the mental health of the participants, and therefore their ability to give consent. I dont want to see insertion of an object so large is causes the orifice to split and need stitches. Full on nudity? Why not? Its been in every top shelf magazine for 40 years without society falling apart, and is accepted as normal and healthy in relationships. Full on sex? Provided there were measures to prevent accidental exposure, it didnt push other content off TV and with measures to protect the sexually immature, like the watershed and a special section of the EPG, again why not? Its not harmful, at worst it offends some people, but so do Tories and Tube Drivers. If anything budget live porn can dispel the myth that real women look like supermodels and men perform like those copper topped batteries, and that surely will help some men accept ordinary women as they are. Is that so terrible?

(06-10-2011 17:17 )Money_Shot Wrote:  Hundreds of channels, each and every one of them hand picked by the top dogs at Sky for us to watch.

As I have said in the past, it is NO coincidence Rupert Murdoch is behind Sky.

It's wrong to suggest that Sky determine what channels are broadcast. They don't. If a channel wishes to broadcast on the Sky platform, it pays its fee and starts broadcasting (although I'm slightly glossing over the limited EPG slots that have affected channel launches in the last year or so).

And the reason it's no coincidence that Rupert Murdoch is behind Sky is because his company - News Corporation - is a major shareholder in BSkyB, the company that owns and operates Sky.

I would not say sky dont determine what channels broadcast on the sky epg I would think they have final say

murdoch is not the major shareholder in sky tv anymore that is what he was trying to buy back full control if he does get it I am not sure if he will allow the babeshow I mean the guy is big time right wing

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Sky only provide the EPG slot and nothing else, you have to have to enter and program all the data and text yourself and do all updating yourself.

It costs around £85,000 a year or more for a tv EPG slot, £25,000 a year and rising for a radio station.

I know all of this from a satellite radio station I used to work for that is on sky.

On the European Astra 19.2 digital satellite it's free and part of your deal as the station I worked for was on 19.2 in both analogue and digital forms in the past.

And you have to pay again another seperate EPG cost for Freesat on top of sky !

The epgs are sodding expensive.

A quarter or more of the total yearly cost of putting the station I worked on onto sky was spent purely on the EPG channel.

It can be possible to request a specific EPG channel number but only within the section/grouping of your type of channel genre.

Murdochs right wing but hes also an outsider and a businessman. He must have known damm well that much of the growth of Sky when it was set up was down to the availability of German porn on exactly the same Astra satellite and I dont recall him rushing to block it. He might only be a minority shareholder in Sky but you can bet he has substantial influence. Dont forget that News International publishes The Sun and no one forces them to put topless women on Page 3.

Yes on reflection SKY really don't give a fuck what is broadcast so long as you can cough up the money to pay for the EPG slot but part of the big problem is Ofcom and would be interested parties are shit scared of them as the cost of possible fines just doesn't make good business sense for anybody who wishes to start up any kind of risque channel. Only when Ofcom go might we see a return to the days of anything goes TV, it's not just the babe channels that are feeling the wrath of Ofcom it's every channel.

(09-10-2011 02:44 )eccles Wrote:  Murdochs right wing but hes also an outsider and a businessman. He must have known damm well that much of the growth of Sky when it was set up was down to the availability of German porn on exactly the same Astra satellite and I dont recall him rushing to block it.

It's worth remembering that when Sky originally launched on analogue satellite, it was broadcast on the Astra 1A satellite at 19.2E, which has a 'footprint' across most of western Europe. Sky leased transponders on this satellite along with a great many European broadcasters, which is why you were able to pick up "German porn" on your decoder box.

When Sky went digital, it started broadcasting instead from the different Astra 2A satellite at 28.2E, which has a 'footprint' only really over the UK and Ireland. That is principally the reason why foreign TV channels aren't accessible from your Sky box - because your dish is pointing at a satellite that's only really used by channels wishing to broadcast to the British Isles, and French/German/Italian etc channels clearly don't consider that it makes commercial sense to pay to be on this specific satellite.