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Calling Babe Channels - Prices

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RE: VAT Hike & Call/Text Cost Increase
(10-01-2011 12:39 )george.chunni Wrote:  
(10-01-2011 08:17 )RCTV Wrote:  I know the way it used to be that you used to buy a number for x amount a year and you used to be able to decide the cost with the company it was from, so the channels have quite a bit of involvement in the choice of the price.

Personally I think it could be a hell of a lot less than it currently is.

When getting a premium rate number in the UK you can't specify the price. There are allocated ranges with specific price points set by Ofcom.

Doesn't stop the channels have tonnes of involvement as, as long as they are in the range they are fine, and there is no price points set by ofcom, well i've not known them be used for a few years, as other service use premium rate numbers and i know for a fact that they certainly don't have price points and just have to make sure they are in a range, and they follow the same regs.

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As a regular caller I don't think the extra increase makes much difference to me really.

I've never understodd why day and night prices are the same, either night should be £2 a min or day £1.00 as there is a certain thing missing between day and night shows.....

Personally I only ring day as I'm too knackered to think about sex after 10pm lol but as long as the day shows have a 'very near the knuckle' verbal option for those of us who prefer day stimulation I am happy with that.

Having said that I do really welcome sites like Elite that give a guy more cost effective ways to pay for his pleasure.
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RE: VAT Hike & Call/Text Cost Increase
(10-01-2011 12:39 )george.chunni Wrote:  When getting a premium rate number in the UK you can't specify the price. There are allocated ranges with specific price points set by Ofcom.

I think it's PhonepayPlus that sets the tariffs rather than Ofcom and according to the PhonepayPlus website it's "individual billing networks" that decide whether to pass the VAT increase on to the caller.
10-01-2011 22:25
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(10-01-2011 22:25 )elgar1uk Wrote:  
(10-01-2011 12:39 )george.chunni Wrote:  When getting a premium rate number in the UK you can't specify the price. There are allocated ranges with specific price points set by Ofcom.

I think it's PhonepayPlus that sets the tariffs rather than Ofcom and according to the PhonepayPlus website it's "individual billing networks" that decide whether to pass the VAT increase on to the caller.

Remember it is not just the billing network that has an impact on your call cost, studio hire, equipment, refreshments, utilities will all have got up with 20% VAT so increased opertating budget needs to be accounted for in the overal cost of the delivered product
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Charges increase to be expected to be honest - everything else goes up so premium rate phone calls weren't going to be left behind.

Budget coming up in March too...... bloody hell.... could be an expensive year Sad

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(13-01-2011 00:03 )Regenerated Wrote:  Charges increase to be expected to be honest - everything else goes up so premium rate phone calls weren't going to be left behind.

Budget coming up in March too...... bloody hell.... could be an expensive year Sad
Oh crap! Yeah, that an' all... bugger.Sad
Can't wait to hear what Mr Osborne's announcement regarding additional taxation on babeshow chatlines will be.Wink (but really more likebladewave)

ps - does anyone else wonder why doesn't George stop spouting miserable shite about a 'hard year ahead' (What, like the last three? Or worse?Surprised) and just take a punt "People; y'know what? It'll probably all be fine. Just go out and enjoy yourself - and the milkybars are on MEEE!!!" Oh, how I dream...

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RE: VAT Hike & Call/Text Cost Increase
(10-01-2011 22:46 )simplymarko Wrote:  Remember it is not just the billing network that has an impact on your call cost, studio hire, equipment, refreshments, utilities will all have got up with 20% VAT so increased opertating budget needs to be accounted for in the overal cost of the delivered product

This is untrue. The babe channels do not have any extra costs because of the VAT increase. For simplymarko's information (and anyone else that is interested) VAT is designed to be a tax on the CONSUMER and it is NOT designed to be a tax on BUSINESS. The companies providing the UK Babe Channels are all VAT registered business and therefore simply reclaim any VAT they are charged. The increase in the VAT rate to 20% therefore has no effect on them, nor would an increase to 100%, as they would still simply claim the VAT back.

There are similar errors by simplymarko in posts 12 and 15 of this thread, where he states that babe channel profits will be hit by the VAT increase because "all of their operating costs will go up accordingly" (wrong) and that "the shows overheads will have risen because of the increase in VAT" (wrong). In fact the only businesses whose overheads or operating costs will have risen because of the VAT increase are non-VAT registered businesses, which are by definition much smaller businesses than any of those which operate babe channels.

For those who appreciate irony, in post 15 of this thread simplymarko asks another member "do you understand the concept of VAT and business?"
13-01-2011 19:37
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So how is price per min going from £1.50 to £1.53 that different from something in the argos book for £3.99 now being £4.05 when you go in store today?
This is an increase that’s been known for sometime and the cost effect is minimal. Fair enough on the business lesson as my understanding is/was different however I don’t see how people are making a big deal over 3p on a non essential service.During this thread its been implied that this is greed on behalf of stations and at one point wages were bought into question when this is in my opinion not the case bigguy01 in my opinion has given the correct response to these suggestions
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Some good clarification above; thanks admin for tidying that one up.
I think (or not) that, when I've had a long day and have spent the last hour or so pondering pornography, my fried little brain isn't the most efficient little filing clerk and doesn't always bring to mind the info that I'd requested. Perhaps this applies to us all, with sincere apologies to any who feel that I'm a grovelling little faux-intellectual toadie who's desperately trying to appease some non-existent angry god (who wouldn't even have been angry anyway) on behalf of fellow forum members who don't need rescuing (much like the 101st at Bastogne, but that's a different story) and may rightly feel duly piqued at my broad suggestion of the above through said actions and/or statements. These comments are not truly reflective of views held by the author and should not be read as such.
Further apologies for slipping into pseudo-legalese for a moment. It will not happen again. Pwomise.

Bottom line - why should the Babechannels (or any other business) be responsible for emptying my bins? And VAT's VAT.

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Perhaps the banks could donate some of their unpopular profits to help fund babe channels. Their popularity and other things would go up. "Help make it a hard year" could be a winning slogan.

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